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Ellee 25 April 2012 at 6:47pm Posts: 1015 (0 today) Status: offline
Hey you loonies so fun to read you all, thanks for sharing your thoughts, even if I am not talking that much I enjoy reading about your lives, and your joys (Greg Lake - wow!!) If I were able to type as fast as Pat I suppose I would get a knot into my brain - especially because the German section and the part English up above in my head don't always harmonize with each other Here is a problem I have at the moment - a problem with mobile phones I have a mobile phone, an old one given me from my elder son But I rarely use it - It's there for emergency, nearly. Now: my brother, who is quite a smart guy, said to me: "You have to try to stay on track with the technical development, with new devices. Don't give in and stay with a phone just because you are accustomed to use it." Er hat ja Recht - he is right... I am thinking about what kind of new mobile phone could fit. I would like to go into the Internet by phone, but ... I don't need to. And I use a MP3 player by SanDisk, which I really love, so I don't need a phone for music. In a way I really am fed up with all these mobiles devices, made to direct you through life. And fed up with people who are needing their iPhones for status Do mobile phones have any importance for you? Or do you even save money for a new iPhone or BlackBerry? I believe my brother is right, but I am just ... silly Ellee
Pat Parker 26 April 2012 at 12:58am Posts: 2683 (0 today) Status: offline
Ellee, It's funny you should mention mobile phones . . . I just recently had this conversation with a few of my friends/co-workers. I've had a mobile phone for several years now and like yourself, the original and sole purpose was for emergency purposes only because as a nurse working night shift (and having to work in NJ from PA at the time), I really wanted to have access to a phone in case anything happened on the road to/from work. For many years, I paid a phone bill, had the phone but truly just about never, ever used it -- it was, afterall, for emergency purposes only. Whenever it was time for me to get a free upgrade, etc., I would do that and with each upgrade, the phone had more and more features that were interesting to me. Now, all these years later, I currently have an I-phone (3GS), not the latest model, but it's still nice enough and has enough nice features on it to make itself worthwhile to me. I now use it for many things other than the phone -- in fact the phone barely ever rings, but I do get texts and often communicate that way. The problem I have with the technology is that while I love to have it and play with it, I'm not always so sure about it. I still have a land line and therefore, have two phone bills which I pay every month and often think about cancelling the land line, but the "old-fashioned" me does not want to do that. So, all this to say that the mobile phone has become more important for me than it once was, but it is still not the be-all and end-all of communication for me. My biggest pet peeve of all time is to be out with someone who spends his/her whole time on the cell phone -- texting, reading texts, etc., I loathe it and will often say something. I think it's rude and if there is a true emergency, then the person should not be texting on the phone, they should excuse themselves, leave and be where they need to be. I'm probably no help to you Ellee in helping you decide, but that's my few cents worth. But here's an observation I've made . . . we have advanced in technology so far that we can communicate with anyone in any part of the globe in a few seconds flat. Any bit of news or information, we can share it almost instantaneously. However, we dial a phone, receive an automated voice message, who directs your through prompts, with each level leading you to another, just so you can eventually leave a message for the person you were initially trying to call with "urgent" "emergent" news! So much for that!. "Suicide Hotline. . . . Please hold." or "You have reached Suicide Hotline. Please listen carefully, as our menu has changed. If you'd like to commit suicide within the next 24 hours and have the ways and means of doing it . . . please press #1 now. If you are thinking of commiting suicide in the next 3 days, please press #2 now . . .. "
Ellee 26 April 2012 at 8:48pm Posts: 1015 (0 today) Status: offline
Hey Pat thank you for your response automated voice messages are really annoying ... My fifteen year old son tried to help me deciding which mobile phone should be my next. He asked me, if I liked the operating system of my old mobile. If I liked it, I could take an upgrade with a new phone. I think I'll have to consider the pros and cons of existing systems - and then just try one new model. I'll put it on my list for birthday presents - for August. So some time left.
Zenrider 29 April 2012 at 3:12am Posts: 3545 (0 today) Status: offline
Me type fast? Learned in high school and it stuck. Phones, busy splicing two old chargers together to make one good one. The AC charger has a bad plug in to the phone the DC charger's cord broke near the part that plugs into your vehicle lighter. Between the two I should get one. I do have another car charger, so now I should have a good AC charger again. Though the wiring from the DC portion is annoyingly brittle. Anyway, tomorrow is installing new sharp blades on the lawn mower and a mulch kit and hopefully leaving enough time to mow the lawn too. Not sure, have never done this before and, well, we'll see if I can figure it all out.
Big Time ideas 3 May 2012 at 2:10am Posts: 1923 (0 today) Status: offline
Hey everybody! Got the dirt ready out in the garden this weekend. Haven't been able to have a garden for quite a while. I'm looking forward to it. There's a small city park in the middle of this subdivision, and last fall, about 2 weeks before we moved in, someone put gasoline on the new playground equipment and torched it. Melted the whole thing. One of tthe weirdest acts of vandalism I've ever seen. Well, a few weeks ago they finally started replacing it, and took the fence down from around it last week. Yay! All the neighborhood kids are ecstatic.
Big Time ideas 3 May 2012 at 2:27am Posts: 1923 (0 today) Status: offline
Oooo, good idea Jared- We http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcXpZnHLRrYHave Heaven- Yes
Big Time ideas 3 May 2012 at 2:31am Posts: 1923 (0 today) Status: offline
Don't know what happened there- I'm sure you get the idea.
Zenrider 4 May 2012 at 3:38am Posts: 3545 (0 today) Status: offline
Finally spliced the chargers together and now have a functioning home charger. Though after dealing with the wiring, can't believe how brittle and crappy the plastic/vinyl around the wire is in such a short time. They just don't make things like they used to. Got the lawn mower apart and together again and mowed the lawn Sunday. Managed to prop it up on a couple of concrete blocks, so did not have to remove the deck. Mulch kit doesn't fit perfect, but for the price close enough! The holes at least matched the pre-drilled ones on the deck. Blades were perfect and overdue for replacing. Horses have had too much time off the last couple of weeks, so time to get busy with them again. Guys canter departs (google canter departs, I'm sure there is someone out there that can explain it a lot better then I can) still have little to be desired, but he's almost given up trot very fast for a long time before bolting and is now more trotting into a very fast canter. More importantly, he seems to have given up trying to knock me out before trotting real fast and bolting. Anyway, anyone going to the NATO Summit, I'm hearing there may be music. http://www.suntimes.com/12236687-421/grass-roots-groups-want-to-host-free-music-during-nato-summit.html Too bad Peter picked that time to do a few concerts in Europe.
Big Time ideas 10 May 2012 at 2:47am Posts: 1923 (0 today) Status: offline
The weather has been warm and lovely-
Duddy 12 May 2012 at 12:22pm Posts: 5641 (0 today) Status: offline
Hello Lunatics A beautifully mellow day here, everything so green and fresh. Yesterday afternoon spent wandering round old tin mine site - renovated beyond all recognition into respectability but still interesting. Enjoyed a gentle concert last night by a singer/guitarist called Sarah McQuaid. Folky-ish but the piece I enjoyed most was a song by John Dowland - early 17th century composer. Funnny how the unexpected is often the best! Afterwards driving home nearly ran over a couple of drunken blokes walking in the road. Such is life. Right - fresh coffee just brewed and some newly baked scones are calling to me. Have a wonderful weekend and here's PG - Sky Blue. http://youtu.be/gSzZEj-jjF0 Haven't heard how his latest live date has gone ...anyone?
Zenrider 13 May 2012 at 4:15am Posts: 3545 (0 today) Status: offline
Hi Duddy and BTI and any other Lunies lurking about. If bad things happen in threes hopefully I'm done. 1) Drowned my car Monday. Hey, the other guy made it. I should know better, but with the flooding in the area and the bridge that is out, took a chance that in hindsight I shouldn't have. If only the other guy hadn't made it through or I had driven my truck instead. 2) Caught a cold, worked with it all week, but didn't do a damn thing today. OK, I might have mowed the lawn, but it rained all day. 3) Bought a saddle on eBay that was supposed to be in great shape, but it has a broken tree. Waiting to hear from the seller to see if they will refund the total amount paid, or if I will have to go through eBay/PayPal's buyer protection to get my money back. Did find the Mothers Day card I bought my mother today, so perhaps things are starting to head back in the right direction. Hope everyone else had a better week and a nice weekend. Happy Mother's Day whether your kids are human or fuzzier or both.
Ela 14 May 2012 at 3:06pm Posts: 1334 (0 today) Status: offline
Hi Zen, Duddy, BTI and any other lunies lurking around the moon today! I'm checking in from 34,000 feet up in the sky-en route from Ft. Lauderdale to Los Angeles. I've got a 5 hour flight, and I'm trying to pass the time as we bump our way through some turbulence over the Gulf of Mexico. Plans for LA-only there for one night, but we've got a rental car, so we'll tour the Getty Center and drive around and see where we feel like going. My husband travels to LA a lot, so is very comfortable driving there. Tomorrow morning we fly to the big island of Hawaii for my husband's company trip. Zen-sorry about the bad luck with the drowned car, the cold and broken saddle. You're due for some sunshine, and better days! At least you found your Mother's Day card for your Mom! Duddy-we've only got about 72 days now until WOMAD! BTI-I'm glad your weather has been nice! More soon... Laura
raelovo 14 May 2012 at 3:15pm Posts: 1742 (0 today) Status: offline
So, Safe travell ! Trying to pass the time ? Can you listen to the radio ? See the other thread. . .
Ela 14 May 2012 at 3:51pm Posts: 1334 (0 today) Status: offline
Yes, I found it Guy! Enjoyed the interview! Any chance you'll make it to WOMAD this summer?
mooniest 14 May 2012 at 7:53pm Posts: 1531 (0 today) Status: offline
Hi Lunies, I didnt make it over here at the last full moon. I certainly was thinking of ya though. The moon was spectacular, one of the best I have seen in a while. I feel I took fabulous photos of it as well. I loved Peter's chat this month, but it was too short, hopefully next month the information we want will be revealed. Happy Birthday Greetings to all that I missed. Hope your day was special & enjoyable. and I truly hope everyone is doing well.
mooniest 14 May 2012 at 7:59pm Posts: 1531 (0 today) Status: offline
yepper Ellee Greg Lake was WOW!!!! ~ he's still here touring until end of May. I loved the shows I went to, everything was perfect from beginning to end. I also went to see The Musical Box and was disappointed in their performance. Spot on musicians, but there was something lacking in the singer.
mooniest 14 May 2012 at 8:01pm Posts: 1531 (0 today) Status: offline
I should clarify ... disappointed in THE performance, not THEIR ... ~ they were great musicians but the singer did not sound like PG.
Ellee 16 May 2012 at 8:38pm Posts: 1015 (0 today) Status: offline
Something lacking in the singer – I can imagine that, Moonstorm A friend of mine and I went to a concert to one of the greatest German Singer Songwriters -Konstantin Wecker. He made a wonderful performance and had a terrific band with him. Wonderful, he is one of the great angry men of our society, his concert tour is named "Rage and tenderness" the two parts of his life nowadays. He as a person is very much contrary to Peter Gabriel but on the other hand there are some similarities,I think - maybe because of age. Here is Konstantin Wecker singing: "Sage Nein" (a song against indifference concerning neo Nazis) (The song starts at 0.50) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZtmfCJRErY
Zenrider 19 May 2012 at 4:42am Posts: 3545 (0 today) Status: offline
Ela, Yeah, still feeling stupid, I'm usually smarter about things like that, but.... I blame menopause. I swear it's like going through puberty again in some ways. However, good news is, saddle is not broken, still flexes more then any saddle I've had, but had it checked by a professional. It is gonna cost $300 to reflock it, partly because of where I took it, partly because there are some things one shouldn't skimp on. That doesn't bother me as much, because that is almost to be expected with a used saddle. Especially, if your goal is not to teach your horse to buck. Have fun in Hawaii, lucky you. Hey Storm, enjoy you time in the real world when you can. Raelovo, happy camping. Wish I didn't have such a little camper or I'd invite a bunch of Lunies on a road trip. Ela's seen my camper, it's not very big. My mother has slept on the dinette that turns into a bed. Um, I really need to replace the foam in those cushions, they've kinda gotten really hard. Poor Mom, but the second night I wore her out at Disney and I don't think she noticed as much that night. Ellee, nice sound to the song, but well, any translation available? The Neo Nazi's are a lingering problem here. I'll probably get hit by one someday, because if I ever meet one (that admits they are really stupid enough to buy the Nazi propaganda) if they are enjoying their life of bliss. Figure I won't get hit until they ask what I mean by that and can't help but say, "Well they do say ignorance is bliss, so you must be one blissful MF." I'm a very tolerant person, but there are somethings I refuse to tolerate. Beyond that, just plugging along in the real world best I can. Hopefully I can get a few rides in on the ponies. Am thinking about going downtown Sunday or Monday (Monday only if I'm not working) and getting some of my own pics of the protests and talk to some people. After my experiences in Wisconsin, I've learned the media really falls short from real experience.
Ellee 25 May 2012 at 8:04pm Posts: 1015 (0 today) Status: offline
Hi fellow lunatics I do understand the joy of North Americans who will be able to go to one of PG's SO concerts this autumn. But I feel a bit worried , I mean he is a star in his best age, who did a fantastic version of many of his hits (New Blood) and now he is digging in older songs again, doesn't matter whether they were big success or not. I really hope he finds a new way of interpreting his songs. I hope he won't look back too much. And I can't imagine him wearing the legendary light waistcoat anymore... But PG always stays an extraordinary artist - so I think he will surprise his fans For everybody's pleasure: A Genesis concert of 1972 with Peter, I can't really understand the lyrics, but he is so sweeeeet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0XKD3OI8E&feature=related

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