AaronAKAAtrus13 April 2012 at 4:30amPosts: 445 (0 today)Status: offline
I remember that- i have one song by them- studio version of Algon.
This explains songs like Los Endos and the more straight-jazz less fusions songs that were on a couple of his solo albums.
mooniest17 April 2012 at 12:27pmPosts: 1531 (0 today)Status: offline
I havent been visiting here as much as I used to because of Cyn/Arebor's negative and fire spitting posts, but it seems now that that friction has left I will visit more often.
I missed you guys alot.
Nice and peaceful here now. It's become easy to breathe in the Moon air once again
Big Time ideas18 April 2012 at 5:18pmPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
Pat Parker19 April 2012 at 5:45pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
I just thought I'd pop in here -- I do not usually frequent the Roundtable Discussions, have very rarely done so, but every once in awhile I will read up on some of the discussions just to catch up on some news with some of the familunies, but rarely do I post. It's nothing at all personal, but it's just not a thread I've contributed to much in the past.
I come here today because I wanted to express my concern about something and felt this might be the best place to do that, so that any/all lunies reading this thread will be able to see it (that is, assuming lunies still do visit this place, the moon ).
For those of you who have facebook accounts, you will understand that lately there have lots of changes with facebook -- Timeline -- a new feature that facebook has forced on all its users, despite the fact that there is not one single fb user who has a good thing to say about it. However, it's something that is inevitable I suppose and when using a "free" account, there's not much we can do about it -- we can either take it or leave it (facebook, that is). Many have chosen to stay, but don't seem to hang around much any more -- but it's difficult to know that for sure, because Timeline doesn't always show you what the latest information is.
Awhile back (a few years now, maybe) when fb was becoming the new thing, many lunies created accounts and there are many of us who chat over there, etc., Facebook has some neat features and have the ability to create fan pages, groups, etc.,
Back in the early days of facebook, a group was formed for the lunatics -- it was a way for lunies to chat in a somewhat private matter, off of the moon. I was initially a member, looking forward to the opportunity to meet and chat with lunies outside of the moon. Very early on, due to some tumultous times here on the moon, several of the lunies used the fb group discussions to discuss what was happening here and vent about their dislikes of certain people here, etc. (Please know, I'm not criticizing any of this, but just giving the history here).
I felt at the time that whenever I went to the group discussion (during those early days), it was not what I had expected and it was not what I wanted in a group discussion -- it was a lot like "us" vs. "them" and honestly, it is not something I have ever participated in my life in any manner of speaking. If I ever feel that is what's taking place, I simply choose to remove myself from that behavior -- not in any kind of self-righteous manner, but just as my own self-preservation -- if I do not know about people's good or bad qualities (second-handedly), then I will not need to judge or worry about it. I have always much preferred to learn about people and their personalities through my own self and my own contact with them. I always expect others to treat me the same way, but that isn't always the case, but again, I cannot own what isn't mine -- I cannot ask a person to treat me with respect if they choose not to; it's all up to the individual.
So, shortly after being a member of the group, I withdrew from it. I sent a note to the administrator explaining that I had nothing at all against any of the members and I was not excluding myself in any "better than thou" manner -- I just didn't wish to participate in the group as it was.
Over the course of time, I have actually often forgotten about the fact the group page existed. Every now and then it would pop up in discussions here and it would be mentioned that that is where all of the good lunies went when this place went to hell. It was then that I realized that the group does still exist, but again, I didn't give it much thought.
I have always said this and say it still, "I come to the moon for Peter Gabriel first, foremost and lastly. The fact that I have made many friends here during this time is an absolute plus and I'm grateful for it, but I have always kept my perspective about why I come to the moon, why I listen to PG, why I attend his shows, why I have such great respect for him as a person -- he's a very decent human being who happens to have a shitload of talent and is very generously sharing his life with us -- those we do not even know! It's surely an honor to be able to connect with so many others who share the same opinions, but if I were the only person here on the moon (which these days it often feels as if I am), then so be it. As long as Peter wants to continue, then I'll be there listening, watching, enjoying."
There have been numerous times when not being a member of the facebook group has proven to be quite detrimental -- in that, often times, discussions are held, plans are made that include only the members and because I'm not a member (and I'm not complaining about it), I have been excluded from some of the things that I might have been interested in joining in. Again, my not being a member of the group had nothing to do with how I felt (or still feel) about the members).
Sometimes during heated moments here on the moon and even in some discussions on facebook, I have referred to some of the "elitists" here and during those times I would receive messages, etc., apologizing, explaining and defending their status and that no one was acting as an elitist, no one was intentionally excluding me or anyone else from the group. It's always worked out and there are absolutely no hard feelings about anything whatsoever -- so be certain that when you (whomever you might be) read this post that you know that and accept it as true. I am still the same person I have always been and I still know and love all of you (well, those of you whom I've had the pleasure of knowing and loving ), but the truth remains the same -- the facebook group does have its advantages for those who wish to keep communicating with each other and don't wish to come to the moon any longer; it also has its disadvantages -- which is why I've come to write this (Whew!!! Took me long enough to get to the point, didn't it?!)
A few weeks ago, I saw a very brief, one-line comment made by one of my favorite, most loved lunatics. It was written on facebook and all I could infer from the comment was that there had been a loss in her family -- I had no idea who the person was, when it had happened and based on a very few comments, I could only tell that something had happened. I made a brief comment, offering my condolences but honestly didn't know who I was talking about and was definitely too embarassed to ask on the wall. I blamed it on the timeline thing on facebook and cursed it once again!
A few days ago, I read yet another comment by this same lunatic and it again mentioned someone else in her family passing away. I truly was worried and couldn't find anything anywhere that helped me to know more. So, I made a comment and then decided to send a private message.
I explained that I was very sorry, but I thought the timeline thing on facebook was really fucking up things (as it is, I have missed many posts written on my wall from my friends and family) and I very sheepishly asked her what had been going on. I explained to her that I hoped she knew that I would never ever ignore something so important in her life. Fortunately, she wrote me back, explained what had happened in her family over the past few weeks and thanked me for my support. I'm so glad to know that our friendship goes way beyond any facebook group or discussion. I'm happy I had the guts to just ask about it.
As it now turns out, the fact is that the lunatic group carry on discussions (much like the roundtable, I suppose) and it's apparently very active. I do not need to be a member of the group, and all of the members can choose to share whatever information they please -- be it gatherings, events, funny stories, sad times, hard times, fun times -- but please keep in mind that not everyone is aware of what's going on and therefore, cannot share in your discussions, fun times, hard times, sad times.
Please know that l do hope that everyone in the familunie is doing well and wish all of you a great spring and summer. If you're getting to see PG in May, I'm super happy for you and hope you share your good times with us here on the moon. I'm such a die-hard and will not ever give up on this place, despite some of the "best" lunatics (as one person put it) having already done so. I may not be the best lunatic, but lunatic I am . . . until the end!
Thanks for allowing me to take up so much space at the Roundtable today -- hope to read more and more lunies here on the moon someday soon!
Kind regards to all
Zenrider20 April 2012 at 3:58amPosts: 3545 (7 today)Status: offline
Ya know Pat, you think too much sometimes. Though, if nothing else, it would be nice to have PM's so that we can keep some things personal here when one feels the need.
Makes me kind of glad I haven't bothered with one of those Facebook things. Have an old MySpace, which I was talked into, then everyone bailed to Facebook and I didn't follow. (shrugs shoulders) Every time I think about making a Facebook page, there seems to be another reason not to. Let's just say there are things about computer network technology that I love and other shit that, well scares the crap out of me. And I don't scare easy.
One of the guyz on my route was telling me, that he's installing panels in a big box store's ceiling that will send info to people's smart phones about items in that area of the store that may interest them. So glad my phone ain't that smart.
For those that still have some independent thought, one may wonder how many choices are truly their own even so. Then again, I seem to have resisted Lobster Fest so far. Whereas the rest will convince themselves that they came to that conclusion on their own. The more I learn the more I take comfort that we are likely no more then a Who (Dr. Seuss) in the greater scheme of things. After all, if the whole universe depended on those of us on our little planet earth making the right decisions, that would be a scary thought, now wouldn't it?
In anyway, since I find I do more in the real world if I spend less time in the cyber world, a few forums suits me better. Just glad someone in Florida doesn't seem to mind meeting me for lunch or dinner once a year when I'm down there. BTW, seriously thinking of taking three weeks in a row next year (if I can) so will have a little more time to plan perhaps? OK and should, hopefully, not have to worry about the truck's radio next year either.
Anyway in my largely happily mundane life things are pretty much same ol', same ol' for me. Other then actually getting some rides in on Guy. Zen's been a bit NQR (Not Quite Right) off and on, that I'm waiting for the Vet to give me the go ahead to do more then a little light riding on him lately. Guy seems to be enjoying the attention and well except his canter departs still have very little to be desired I couldn't be prouder of the little neurotic goof.
Beyond that, I've been doing really well about eating better, that is healthier, with maybe one exception and if the weather would cooperate better on my days off, I'd take a few more bicycle rides too. Oh, the exception to eating healthier, well, common, with all the birthdays here I just couldn't resist buying this pretty cake from the local grocery store. http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv348/yzenrider/misc/IMG_4499.jpg Chocolate cake with butter creme icing. Yum.
Pat Parker20 April 2012 at 4:23amPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Thanks for the update, Zen! Yeah, you're right, I do often "think" too much but I think you (and hopefully other lunies) understand my point -- I don't need to be an active member of a group (private or otherwise) but it was with the latest info that I realized how much I might be missing out on some very important stuff -- it made me sad and I wanted to clarify it for anyone else who still comes here and might go there, so they'd understand my "absence" from some comments, etc.
I also agree with you regarding the whole social networking thing and the internet overall. I have already given it thought (about the group page) and actually thought that it's one less distraction I need. As it is, I only have the moon, facebook and my own personal e-mails, but lately I've joined "Pinterest" and although it's quite intereesting -- it can become all-time-consuming -- there's so much on there!
I love hearing about your horses and hope that Zen begins to feel better soon. (Funny that you should use the NQR -- I believe I read that same phrase being used on Wolf Park's site regarding one of their elderly wolves. Guess it's a true accepted vetinarian term -- now I've learned something new and will try to use it (Example: That person is really NQR in the head! )
Okay, goodnight lunies, the table is yours.
Duddy20 April 2012 at 9:02pmPosts: 5641 (0 today)Status: offline
Hello Pat, Zen
Good to hear from you. As a child I was always being scolded for thinking too much - but I can't accept it as a fault! Just carry on Pat, it's part of who you are and good that you can express yourself so well. We all come and go here, but it doesn't take much PGness to bring us Lunatics out into the open - well here anyway. Glad your neurotic goof is on the miend Zen!
Lots of rain here but a beautiful evening with blue skies and sea and the usual racket of seagulls. Feeling glad to be on this BBB. Have a nice evening.
On the rocky: PG - Sky Blue.http://youtu.be/gSzZEj-jjF0
Have to agree with the most recent comment on this vid!
Zenrider21 April 2012 at 3:59pmPosts: 3545 (7 today)Status: offline
Perhaps I should have said over think instead? After all, there are plenty of people who don't think enough.
As for Guy's issues, they have been mostly mental ones.
As for NQR, it's pretty much a term used when you know something is not quite right, but not an obvious lameness or illness. So yes, some people may be NQR in the head as there is no obvious reason for them to think the way they do.
Big Time ideas21 April 2012 at 6:13pmPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
Yea, well there is one thing I know for sure-
Pat types really, really fast.
Big Time ideas21 April 2012 at 6:22pmPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
And for that matter, so does Zen.
I get timed out if I write a paragraph.
Pat Parker21 April 2012 at 10:02pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
LOL! BTI -- I do actually type fairly fast -- not so sure about how fast these days -- it's been ages and ages since I've been timed at it -- perhaps one day I'll do it just for the fun of it. However, when I had learned typing in school (many, many moons ago), I was average and of course, whenver I first went out to apply for secretarial jobs, I would be sooooooooo nervous and type away, but making lots of errors.
Anyway, I remember going for a promotion in a job and I really, really wanted to get the job (had all of the necessary criteria and it would have meant a bit more money while working in the same unit and with the same people, so no big deal. So, another secretary sat with me every day for a week or so and timed me and tested me (this was the area that I was so very nervous about). By the end of the week, I was ready and when I took the typing test, I passed with flying colors!
Eventually, over the years, I became a legal secretary and the typing requirement for those jobs is very high speed and accuracy -- of course, having to type on a keyboard is so much easier than typing on a typewriter's keyboard, so the soft touch makes it much easier to go along smoothly.
So, all this to say -- I guess I overthought that one (about typing) too! Also, I'm not so sure if it's the internet connection that you might have that causes you to time out -- not that mine is any great shakes -- mine fails at least once per session -- and usually with one of the most important things that I'm writing . . . go figure!
Okay, the sun is still out here (it was supposed to have been raining by now) so I'm going to hop off and take Harry out for a quick walk and then have some dinner -- Harry manages to co-erce many of my neighbors to give him treats -- he's such a schmoooooze, as we say. He definitely knows how to put on the charm .
G'day, G'nite whereever you are
Big Time ideas22 April 2012 at 10:08pmPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
I took typing in high school, but I haven't had much call to use it, so I'm not fast. It has come back to me a bit, though.
Ya know, I think over thinking in some cases is preferable to doing something without thinking at all. When I've acted or spoken without thinking, well, it's not a good thing sometimes.
However, on the other hand, I've realized that there are times when you have to just do something,(whatever it is), and not think about it, or you might chicken out and not do it at all. Ah, the complexities of life.
The weather is georgeous here. It's hot, though. It was in the 60's last week and raining, and it's supposed to to get to 90 today. Wow.
And I think Harry gets treats because he is such a beautiful dog.
Hey Jen, how's your job going?
Big Time ideas22 April 2012 at 10:17pmPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
Hey! Moonie must have gone to see Greg Lake by now! How was he Moonie?! Do tell!!!
mooniest23 April 2012 at 3:01amPosts: 1531 (0 today)Status: offline
I did, went yesterday and the day before!! ~ it was amazing!! I enjoyed every second of it.
2 soundchecks, 2 shows and 2 M&G's.
It's no secret around here that Peter is my 2nd love ~ Greg will never be replaced as my 1st. I am sure Gabes is just fine with that.
It was 35 years in the making that I have waited and waited and waited to meet Greg.
I've been to ELP concerts and one Greg Lake solo, but never was there a chance to meet him, unless you were a groupie and I wasn't!!
He is a very humble and loving person and a true gentleman. And really funny.
If anyone is familar, Greg was also in the first King Crimson band, the one that had the best music (I know there are some that will challenge me on certain songs, but let's not and say we did, lol)
He performed four songs from KC ... (Moonchild, Epitaph, I Talk To The Wind, & Court of the Crimson King).
I cried when he sang Epitaph.
Then he did his ELP songs, and also performed songs that impacted him in his life, such as the Beatles (Hide your love away) and Jimi Hendrix (Bold As Love)
Greg can cover a song, let me tell ya!!!!
He told stories about happenings in his life and had a Q&A portion during the show.
The M&G's for me were very personal and I won't bore you with what went on. But just want to say I was in heaven.
thanks for asking!! I am still on cloud 9
here is one song he sang last night, now of course his voice is deeper than it was when he was younger, but still rich and strong.
23 April 2012 at 8:34amPosts: ( today)Status:
Thinkers and doers
If each must become the other it still holds that if thinkers become doers, doers must think.
Happy St George’s Day!
Pat Parker23 April 2012 at 3:40pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Hey BTI -- I agree with you -- on the over-thinking and the under-thinking and the consequences of each one. I also absolutely agree with you about sometimes having to "just do it" and then think about it later -- I must say, it usually leads to a very fun time! (Although if it were up to me, I'd probably like to plan my spontaneous moments just to be sure they happen! )
Ah, yes, typing in high school -- that's where it all started for me as well and on the old-fashioned (dare I even say it for fear that some might not know what I'm talking about? ) -- old-fashioned "manual typewriters" -- these were really the mules of the typewriters and I can say that your fingers got a true work out. I think I'd break my pinky finger if I tried to type an "a" or ";" on a manual typewriter!
I'm the opposite of just about everyone I know -- because I had primarily a secretarial background, using typewriters, when computers came along, I still chose (and still do) to use my keyboard for everything. I very rarely use a mouse -- only if it's the only way around something, so I know lots of the functions, etc., via the keyboard -- it's my most natural way.
For Karen -- I can completely understand where you're coming from with Greg and his shows and your meetings with him. How awesome!!! And as for Peter being #2, and no one replacing Greg's #1 spot -- on that, I also agree with you. I have always said that Peter Gabriel is my #1 person, amongst my many favorites and I say that the gap between #1 and #2 for me is soooooooo very wide that it doesn't matter who is in #2 spot -- hell, everyone else is in #2 spot and they will never come close to #1 spot.
I would be on cloud 9 for quite and you should enjoy being there -- don't share the space with anyone else -- tell them to get their own cloud 9!
Oh, BTI -- thank you for the compliment for Harry. I also think he's a cutie (and you're right -- so does everyone else). I often laugh about the situation, though -- Harry was abandoned/discarded because the man thought he was "ugly" (his right eye has less pigmentation than the right, making him have a partially pink area of his eye). Harry's "trademark" has become his eyes and his cuteness from it all -- he looks as if he has eye make-up on one eye and none on the other -- you've got your "before" and "after" Harry in one sitting! So, it's so ironic that this cruel man threw Harry out to basically die because he was "ugly" and the rest of the world (who has met Harry) think he's gorgeous!
If I am ever able to get the photos uploaded and onto here somehow, I would love to share two photos -- one is of Harry taken at Thanksgiving time, sleeping on my bed. The other is of a little sheltie/mix named Ivy (I think). Ivy was also abandoned and discarded along with Harry, so they were best friends while surving the winter/hot summer on the farm. Ivy was adopted by someone in NYC and they happened to post a photo of her -- asleep on their bed -- nearly in the same exact pose! (Something tells me that both Harry and Ivy made a pact -- when we get adopted, we're sleeping in the big bed -- no outdoor living for us!).
Goodday everyone. It's zombie monday and altho it's too early for me to zombie out, I'm fading fast -- it's a dark, rainy, miserable day -- just the kind of day zombies love!! Will read more later, after I've had a few hours of sleep . . .
Pat Parker23 April 2012 at 3:45pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Just re-read what I wrote and noticed some typos . . . sorry about that but I truly am half-asleep while typing this. Forgive the typos, please.
Big Time ideas24 April 2012 at 12:32amPosts: 1922 (0 today)Status: offline
Typos? Nobody 'round here cares about no stinking typos.
We all have typos. You are forgiven.
I agree about Harry,Pat. The eye thing is considered a flaw, and some of these people care about nothing but how the animal looks. He shouldn't have the dog anyway. The powers that be wanted him with you.
That sounds amazing! The concert sounds fantastic, and you got to meet him twice?! I wish I could have gone with you!
Pat Parker25 April 2012 at 1:56amPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Moonie so very happy for your encounter with Greg, sounds like you had an experience you'll never forget
To answer your question Biggie - I'm not overly thrilled with the new job, it's calling businesses and trying to get them to attend MDA fundraisers from a script. I'm getting my fair share of attendees but I much prefer a position where I can use my brain, problem solve and multi task. Honestly this job bores me but it is bringing in money that is desperately needed.
I'm hoping to find something else soon, something with 40 hours (instead of 30) something permanent with medical benefits. and if I only had to take 1 bus instead of 3 that would be great
I'm with you Peter is #1 for me. In fact I've never belonged to anyone's fan club or online club before just this British bloke who's looking more and more like Gandalf every year