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"I've been considering suicide because of this, because of Ezri complaining about me to sites I am not even a member of and other problems on the forums." Most of what rraven says here is not altogether true and to consider suicide because of a message board spat is not healthy. rraven is expert at attacking someone then playing the victim - She can dish it out but she sure can't take it Does it not bother anyone that she claims thoughts of suicide over this trivial business? She has posted some incredibly nasty things to me, out of the blue, and when I defend myself I am the bad guy. I'll give you this rraven you are very good at turning things around and convincing others that you are the victim - you are not the victim, not in the least and you are very clever at what you do.

[quote/ and yet when GH was accused of being me (like that is the worst thing that can happen to an innocent) good men & women here did nothing in public posts to disagree. /quote] well not that I am a good man or even a good women. I think I should respond any way. I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or with posters interacting on board in a personal scornful way. really I don't! I don't read the personal goings on good or bad amoungst the members. if I see comments heading off into a personal level between some I skip the read. most reason it don't concern me, second i don t have time and third I definite don't know what the conflict would be about. and sure not researching back to the 1969 to find out.lol someone may chew me out and I know I will not remember them or what they were barking at me about a few months later. there is not one person on this board that has ever bothered me where I would remember distastefully. someone may have actually let me have it in their own way. one some debate or strongly objected to my behavior or remarks as a result someone may have torn a strip off me but it was never any harm where I was hurt, maybe I have always agreed with them.lol or better yet I can take the truth.lol hey i am one of the first to say I can be a very miserable bastard. with that said maybe I am a women.lol :-] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4LEOALuUQo

Don't really know what to make of any of this. Hope this gets sorted out and put into the past as just one of those silly things soon.

So, c'mon, Dali . . . tell us . . . are you a man or a woman??? I've always wondered. Even though you might look like Jimi Hendrix :-], you could still be a woman :-]. Shall we start a thread and we can ask questions and you could give us clues???? LOL!

Hello Web team. Don't know if you read us. As you may or may not see, most of us are waiting for the return of Rraven. What's the problem, so? Thanks for taking action. We'd be a lot to appreciate.

Ezri, we all know Raven can be difficult at times and you two have had your share of problems. But please for the sake of peace here, just let it go and lets all move forward ok? Hiya Dalhi, Ste, Pat, zen!

Hey Dar' "Let it pass , let it go, let it leave"

Exactly brother!

Pardon me for asking, but isn't it time PG and Genesis just go over their differences and just toured again??? Just saying. :-] :-] :-]

Trust you Sausage man lol :-] :-] :-]

Forgive me, i'm a new member to this seemingly wonderful forum. I have little to no idea about this "war", but suicide because of something being said on an internet forum is a new low. This is the internet, the world is outside. Don't take me as ignorant, i respect feeling and i respect both of you. But this is the friggin internet dammit! *slap* Please lay the fighting at rest, nobody gains anything from it. Only further despair and confusion results from it. Again, don't think i'm a bad guy - But i get irritated/sad when i see internet fights evolve beyond whats.reasonable. I just want this forum to be a happy place, like it usually is

Fidelity - you make some very good points and I, too, took note of the words written about committing suicide. I did not comment because I did not want to be accused of attacking anyone for her personal opinion and feelings, but I am honestly, genuinely concerned for anyone whose state of mind has her feeling so low. Hopefully her friends and family will be able to help her through this dark period. On the same subject (now that I've broached it and will probably be reprimanded for it), when a person threatens suicide, it is often ignored because many times, it's just a way for a person to gain attention. While this may still be true, I do think that reading someone's thoughts about suicide . . . and blaming the feelings on another person are something to be concerned about. No one and I mean NO ONE is responsible or accountable for OUR own actions - NO ONE except ourselves. Nothing here on the forums is worth getting ourselves worked up about (and heaven knows, we've all done it before), so I would hope that the words written are simply that - words. Let's hope that friends can help her through her frustrations.

I was thinking she was being a bit dramatic and not serious about that. She's been that way before on previous posts. I hope I'm right about that. Weird that she would be suspended, un-suspended and then re-suspended.