Magic Wookie14 July 2010 at 8:44pmPosts: 268 (0 today)Status: offline
Strike by night is my advice
apparently they are defenceless
Duddy14 July 2010 at 8:45pmPosts: 5641 (0 today)Status: offline
but. . .nothing can stop them!
Magic Wookie14 July 2010 at 8:47pmPosts: 268 (0 today)Status: offline
too right Duddy
around every river and canal their power is growing
rraven14 July 2010 at 9:11pmPosts: 3102 (0 today)Status: offline
Damn - I thought he just made the plant name up. I forgot PG always had a horticultural bent.
Mr_Clueless14 July 2010 at 9:45pmPosts: 2013 (0 today)Status: offline
MW, you assume it's best to strick by night because they all need the sun to photosensitize their venom?
Still they're invincible, still they're immune to all our herbicidal battering.
The prophet Gabriel has brought his message to us in the year of 1971, now his visions are becoming reality. . . :-]
Little rainbow14 July 2010 at 11:16pmPosts: 3953 (2 today)Status: offline
this is the kind of counsel anyone will find on internet
This product contains the chemical glyphosate whose derivatives are highly toxic and involved in the disappearance of many aquatic species, a threat to the health burden.
I hope it will soon be banned from sale and especially in manufacturing.
so true that many farmer friends around me ceased to use it. it is responsible at high level of little predator commonly leaving in waters and rivers such as "salamandres". Result, coming back of cribbing/crib bitting here in Brittany, and a rising amount of lyme cases.
Lyme disease, or lyme borreliosis, is an emerging infectious disease caused by at least three species of bacteria belonging to the genus Borrelia. Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato is the main cause of Lyme disease in the United States, whereas Borrelia afzelii and Borrelia garinii cause most European cases. The disease is named after the town of Lyme, Connecticut, USA, where a number of cases were identified in 1975. Although Allen Steere realized in 1978 that Lyme disease was a tick-borne disease, the cause of the disease remained a mystery until 1982, when B. burgdorferi was identified by Willy Burgdorfer.
Lyme disease is the most common tick-borne disease in the Northern Hemisphere. Borrelia is transmitted to humans by the bite of infected ticks belonging to a few species of the genus Ixodes ("hard ticks"). Early symptoms may include fever, headache, fatigue, depression, and a characteristic circular skin rash called erythema migrans. Left untreated, later symptoms may involve the joints, heart, and central nervous system. In most cases, the infection and its symptoms are eliminated by antibiotics, especially if the illness is treated early. Late, delayed, or inadequate treatment can lead to the more serious symptoms, which can be disabling and difficult to treat. Occasionally, symptoms such as arthritis persist after the infection has been eliminated by antibiotics, prompting suggestions that Borrelia causes autoimmunity.
Some groups have argued that "chronic" Lyme disease is responsible for a range of medically unexplained symptoms beyond the recognized symptoms of late Lyme disease, and that additional, long-term antibiotic treatments are needed. Of four randomized controlled trials of long-term ceftriaxone and doxycycline treatment in patients with ongoing symptoms, two found no benefit, and two found inconsistent benefits with significant side effects and risks from the antibiotic treatment. Most expert groups, including the Infectious Diseases Society of America and the American Academy of Neurology, have found that existing scientific evidence does not support a role for Borrelia nor ongoing antibiotic treatment in such cases. However, the subject is controversial, with some doctors, patient advocacy groups, and politicians continuing to argue that long-term treatment is beneficial. This dispute has led to legal action over treatment guidelines, as well as harassment and death threats made against physicians who will not acknowledge "chronic" Lyme disease as a legitimate diagnosis.
Then, in order to eradicate one plant, the risk is to contaminate water and to face at the end of the "link" a much more painfull and impressive desease.
My best friend discovered two months ago that she had been contaminated 10 years ago during a travel in scotland. this is actually underestimated and under tacken into account.
then good way to face it
boiling water with salt, in spring, and some hand work weeks after.
an interesting link on the subject
Little rainbow14 July 2010 at 11:17pmPosts: 3953 (2 today)Status: offline
Every few years this thing comes back. I think it is alien life trying to get a foothold in this world!!!!
Ste15 July 2010 at 1:08amPosts: 2647 (0 today)Status: offline
They are alien Deb, walking the path of the Earth ! They were there before in some cultivated wild gardens, in which they innocently planted the giant hogweed throughout the land.
And the royal beast did not forget.
Soon they escaped, spreading their seed,
Preparing for an onslaught, threatening the human race.
That's all I say.
Ste15 July 2010 at 1:09amPosts: 2647 (0 today)Status: offline
*In which they WERE innocently planted!
ceridwen15 July 2010 at 9:35amPosts: 773 (0 today)Status: offline
Peter Gabriel will write asong .
Memé15 July 2010 at 2:10pmPosts: 2378 (0 today)Status: offline
Mr_Clueless15 July 2010 at 2:29pmPosts: 2013 (0 today)Status: offline
I wonder if that tambourine hit at 4:26 was intentional. . .
Memé15 July 2010 at 5:48pmPosts: 2378 (0 today)Status: offline
If it was, surely he had a good training in playing crickett!not easy to aim it!!
Listener16 July 2010 at 9:48pmPosts: 199 (0 today)Status: offline
Heracleum mantegazzianum. who else on earth could fit that into a song lyric. Gabriel you are a genius. I've always remembered that phrase and infrequently say it just to impress.
tree mouse17 July 2010 at 3:13pmPosts: 1801 (0 today)Status: offline
As kids we used to get rashes from playing around Giant Hogweed but I never heard of anyone going blind.
Zenrider18 July 2010 at 2:10amPosts: 3545 (0 today)Status: offline
Gotta wonder about people who import things like that. Hmmm, odd ugly huge plant that may blister me and/or blind me. I must have that! What are people thinking? Think I'll pass. There have sadly been horse owners in the past that planted the decorative Yew plant only to find it was toxic to horses. Careful of what you plant.
That said, I spent much of my day pulling burr weeds out of Flynn's paddock. I spoil the old man, I do.