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I have to thank Jen for that serie of books for the reason why I began to be interested in that reading was the thread about IQ.
followed a dicussion about the subject with my own son, about wether or not he though IQ was a valid measure about one's intelligence. As he reminded me he had been measured a consequent high one (what I didn't take into account till he reminded me) and as he was going through a difficult period in terms of growing up, I began to look for some books to read about the subject.
During the talk, I only answered with humor that being granted a high IQ "would be a disease one could cure", explaining him that in my point of view it may often be a handicap, rather than odds.
I discovered a first French book : difference and pain of the gifted adult. C Bost
that I red with great emotion, for, for the first time, someone seemed to write something that was speaking of me more than ever.
Understand me on that point, gifted or not gifted is not the question, and happily since then someone wrote that any individual could eventualy undergo the same evolution (not welcomed in writting that of course).
What astonished me was the discovery of Dabrowsky theory of positive desintegration, not dedicated to gifted but to anyone eventualy.
What is particularly interesting is the new basis in which he settles the possible devlopment of intelligence : not intellectual capacities at all, but sensitivity
That's a little revolution in this field. a great amount of sensitivness would oblige a child and later on an adult to process informations he feels more than others.
the second point is that he describes such sensitive personalities as undergoing period of "growh" during which the self "desintegrates" in order to be reorganised at higher level.
If not understood from a dynamic point of view some diagnosis such as ADHD, depression and even psychonevrosis hyperkinesthesy and many other diagnosis can appear to be misdiagnosis, for once undergoing that period of growth, things return to "normal".
second little revolution.
such period can let appear symptoms such as maniaco depression for instance, being only transitory.
What interested me was the wy it underlines some personal growth evolution, such as the one has known Jung for example, and goes in the very same way that most of Dolto 's views about children.
I begin to read into English, in order to understand it more fully, for most books are now published in the states and Dabrowsky 's work (no longer published in France for example, although he had died in 1980) known due to the fact that many books about gifted children are relying on his work.
I'm actually reading that one
Living With Intensity: Understanding the Sensitivity, Excitability, and the Emotional Development of Gifted Children, Adolescents, and Adults [Broché]
Susan Daniels (Sous la direction de), Michael, PH.D. Piechowski
which is a good introduction to Dabrowsky 's views.
another recent one
http://www.amazon.fr/Dabrowskis-Theory-Positive-Disintegration-Mendaglio/dp/0910707847/ref=pd_sim_eb_4
with a more precise comment than the one I ought to write.
followed a dicussion about the subject with my own son, about wether or not he though IQ was a valid measure about one's intelligence. As he reminded me he had been measured a consequent high one (what I didn't take into account till he reminded me) and as he was going through a difficult period in terms of growing up, I began to look for some books to read about the subject.
During the talk, I only answered with humor that being granted a high IQ "would be a disease one could cure", explaining him that in my point of view it may often be a handicap, rather than odds.
I discovered a first French book : difference and pain of the gifted adult. C Bost
that I red with great emotion, for, for the first time, someone seemed to write something that was speaking of me more than ever.
Understand me on that point, gifted or not gifted is not the question, and happily since then someone wrote that any individual could eventualy undergo the same evolution (not welcomed in writting that of course).
What astonished me was the discovery of Dabrowsky theory of positive desintegration, not dedicated to gifted but to anyone eventualy.
What is particularly interesting is the new basis in which he settles the possible devlopment of intelligence : not intellectual capacities at all, but sensitivity
That's a little revolution in this field. a great amount of sensitivness would oblige a child and later on an adult to process informations he feels more than others.
the second point is that he describes such sensitive personalities as undergoing period of "growh" during which the self "desintegrates" in order to be reorganised at higher level.
If not understood from a dynamic point of view some diagnosis such as ADHD, depression and even psychonevrosis hyperkinesthesy and many other diagnosis can appear to be misdiagnosis, for once undergoing that period of growth, things return to "normal".
second little revolution.
such period can let appear symptoms such as maniaco depression for instance, being only transitory.
What interested me was the wy it underlines some personal growth evolution, such as the one has known Jung for example, and goes in the very same way that most of Dolto 's views about children.
I begin to read into English, in order to understand it more fully, for most books are now published in the states and Dabrowsky 's work (no longer published in France for example, although he had died in 1980) known due to the fact that many books about gifted children are relying on his work.
I'm actually reading that one
Living With Intensity: Understanding the Sensitivity, Excitability, and the Emotional Development of Gifted Children, Adolescents, and Adults [Broché]
Susan Daniels (Sous la direction de), Michael, PH.D. Piechowski
which is a good introduction to Dabrowsky 's views.
another recent one
http://www.amazon.fr/Dabrowskis-Theory-Positive-Disintegration-Mendaglio/dp/0910707847/ref=pd_sim_eb_4
with a more precise comment than the one I ought to write.Just to settle why I have decided to share that finding, it is mainly because what Dabowsky describes as the fifth level of evolution made me tough about something heard in PG's mouth (can't remember what was the precise interview if anyone can it would be great)
what he said was more or less : we as individual are social persons. at some point "US" can be described as vey reduced, a very close circle, family members for exemple. The larger the "US" became, the best it is.
that's psitively the steps of evolution described by Dabrowsky.
the second point is that very often here I did red comments about one's strong emotivity, and as a consequence it appears logical to be gathered around someone highly sensible, in which we recognized our own level of sensitivity.
Among the things told about PG, bipolarity is something often evoked, even if Raven wrote it was part of the "legend" about the man. At least PG never hide great period of "low"mood (call it as you want).
Bipolarity is one of the possible misdiagnosis underlined by Dabrowsky.
What is quite new and bringing hopes for the many ones undergoing such a period is that a better understanding of the reason why they are suffering can help them cross that path positively, and no longer as if the world around them was just crumbling.
The only thing that finaly prevails in such time is to know that pain has a meaning, and an end.
In between, "emotional tools" are welcomed ! (PG)
here is the link to wiki dealing with Dabrowsky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Positive_Disintegration
(PG)
here is the link to wiki dealing with Dabrowsky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Positive_Disintegration
I try to read Bleak House by Charles Dickens and also try to read it all or through it away before the year is over. 1112 pages!! But in german!
The 100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared by Swedish author Jonas Jonasson
I read this book in German, it is a Bestseller here.
It all starts on the one-hundredth birthday of Allan Karlsson. Sitting quietly in his room in an old people's home, he is waiting for the party he doesn't want. So Allan climbs out of his bedroom window and makes his getaway. And so begins his picaresque and unlikely journey involving criminals, several murders, a suitcase full of cash, and incompetent police. As his escapades unfold, we learn something of Allan's earlier life - he helped to make the atom bomb, became friends with American presidents, Russian tyrants, and Chinese leaders - It's a Forest Gump like story and a real feel-good- book, not only for people whose father turns one hundred these days
Ditto Eva! Good to see you here
Paule Salomon la sainte folie du couple - poche
Don't know if an english translation has been made, but I did find an italian one on A.....e.
For those who like me, consider that the most incredible human adventure passes through relationships within a couple.
A real source of reflexion and a wonderful explanation about the real nature of what is a couple and whow it can possibly evolves in time (7 steps)
Written by a philosopher, psychologist trained in US (Junguian in many aspects) but not that only. A very original point of view.
A book not so easy to read but full of wiseness.
It encompasses many ideas we can find in PG lyrics ...... so, interesting reading for a PG fan.
It can be useful as well for those who lives there celibacy as a non choice, giving them a chance in understanding better whow to come out from it.
A guideline for those having troubles going on there way.
A women thinking, and for me a fascinating reading.
Here is the link to her website
http://www.paulesalomon.org/pages/paula_pensee.htm
and her first website page translated
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.paulesalomon.org%2Fpages%2Fpaula_pensee.htm&act=url
For those who like me, consider that the most incredible human adventure passes through relationships within a couple.
A real source of reflexion and a wonderful explanation about the real nature of what is a couple and whow it can possibly evolves in time (7 steps)
Written by a philosopher, psychologist trained in US (Junguian in many aspects) but not that only. A very original point of view.
A book not so easy to read but full of wiseness.
It encompasses many ideas we can find in PG lyrics ...... so, interesting reading for a PG fan.
It can be useful as well for those who lives there celibacy as a non choice, giving them a chance in understanding better whow to come out from it.
A guideline for those having troubles going on there way.
A women thinking, and for me a fascinating reading.
Here is the link to her website
http://www.paulesalomon.org/pages/paula_pensee.htm
and her first website page translated
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.paulesalomon.org%2Fpages%2Fpaula_pensee.htm&act=url
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