Pascale Rutillet eye
6 July 2009 at 9:38am
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I do love that country, not only for its cheeses, wines, wounderfull landscapes,its culture and ability to be enthusiastic in a so special way as quoted by Charlie Winston.
I love this country because, nowhere else the contradiction could arise so plenly:
a former minister of defense, claiming he don't ever liked Mickael Jackson's music, he is total fan of led zeppelin(quadrophenia)and over all genesis and Peter Gabriel, of which favourite song would be Biko!
thus, against all odds,you can love someone music and live in total contradiction with it :-]
sorry into french
http://www.ozap.com/actu/herve-morin-michael-jackson-degenere-video/285134
Never Mind
6 July 2009 at 7:06pm
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Led Zeppelin is not related to The Who's Quadrophenia. It is true that The Who's long deceased drummer Keith Moon coined the name "Led Zeppelin", and that he and Jimmy Paige were friends, but Quadrophenia is not a Led Zeppelin (double) album or song, but rather the work of The Who.
Since when Peter Gabriel's music is the sole province of leftists? And speaking of PG's music, how about just the sounds (i.e. Birdy, Last Temptation of Christ . . ."gabrielese", etc.)? Do those sounds also carry a left-wing message?
Why do right-wingers or non left-wingers should not like PG's music (with lyrics and everything)?
Why (. . .or how . . .or where) is there a "total" contradiction in "loving" someone's music and embracing a different ideology than that someone or his/her followers?
Music (sounds alone or accompanied with lyrics) is a form of art, and art per-se has no ideology. I may absolutely despise the persona of an artist and his/her ideology, but that does not automatically become grounds for disliking his/her outputs. I also may like very much the persona of an artist and his/her ideology, but I can despise his/her output.
People are freee to think what they think, say what they say and act as they act (provided they respect the rights of others) and no one should force them to do so or not. No one should place right and wrong tags on people just because they think, say and act as someone expects or wishes or because they don't.
Why should the left monopolize Peter Gabriel in words, sounds and deeds?
The real contradiction comes from people who on one side promote and/or proclaim inclusiveness, openness, respect, tolerance and understanding as ultimate sacrosanct goals, and who on the other side discriminate against any other person who does not embrace the same ideology.
I proclaim myself as a person of the right. I believe and in my everyday life I consciously practice inclusiveness, openness, respect, tolerance and understanding towards all living beings; I think people are basically and inherently good; I believe that people can solve their problems by themselves with no intervention of the state; I am convinced that the market, as imperfect as it may become at times, regulates itself; I believe that accumulating wealth on the basis of honest and hard work is not a crime, but an inalienable right; I believe that if the state wholy or partly takes away the wealth one legitimately accumulates, uses it solely to finance welfare and not also to find ways of keeping people out of welfare is not only wrong, but immoral; I think the ultimate role of the state is to act as an arbiter and regulator promoting, supporting and defending the rights and the freedom of the people, and I also like Peter Gabriel's music.
Pascale Rutillet eye
7 July 2009 at 8:36am
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luis, no time to read it plenly at the moment, but, whatsoever, you're right

:-] :-] note that speaking of him with a friend yesterday night, who votes always on the ight wing of election there (yes, I do have friends voting right wing, not narrow minded, we share the same liking for good wine!) we were saying that this former minister was rather a moderate one.
The only thing I wanted to underlined, was that you can be the representative of French military sales and love PG. Found it funny, nada mas. :-] :-]