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Pascale Rutillet eye 27 April 2009 at 12:03pm Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
Effacez le nom de mon grand-père à Yad Vashem Article publié le 29 Janvier 2009 Par Jean-Moïse Braitberg Source : LE MONDE Taille de l'article : 472 mots this is an extract of an article posted by a French in "Le monde"that some can read right now into french before the translation. it's about the removal asked on a name on Yad washem memorial of the name of a relative, due to Israelian actions in Gaza. I've been personnaly waiting for so many time for such voices arising and being heard that I do post it here. Extrait : Monsieur le Président de l'Etat d'Israël, je vous écris pour que vous interveniez auprès de qui de droit afin que l'on retire du Mémorial de Yad Vashem dédié à la mémoire des victimes juives du nazisme, le nom de mon grand-père, Moshe Brajtberg, gazé à Treblinka en 1943, ainsi que ceux des autres membres de ma famille morts en déportation dans différents camps nazis durant la seconde guerre mondiale. Je vous demande d'accéder à ma demande, monsieur le président, parce que ce qui s'est passé à Gaza, et plus généralement, le sort fait au peuple arabe de Palestine depuis soixante ans, disqualifie à mes yeux Israël comme centre de la mémoire du mal fait aux juifs, et donc à l'humanité tout entière.
Pascale Rutillet eye 27 April 2009 at 12:21pm Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
another event those days, "Pen world voices" organized in NY, during which will be presented some petition to free wrters from different countries jailed around the world, for the only reason they did say with a pen what they have to say. http://www.pen.org/
Synnie 27 April 2009 at 2:20pm Posts: 4169 (0 today) Status: offline
Thank you for information, Little rainbow! Actually, they also should have a board for those, who sign for Palestines, who died or are imprisoned (as for some jewish friends of mine, they also would sign for those, people are people. . .and one must not pass on to others, what has been done to oneself, I mean politicians here) The (partly jewish) father of my child spoke for the Palestines too, for instance, and I have some german friends, who sold CDs about the crusaders to support a hospital in Israel for ALL confessions (or none alike), backgrounds. "et donc à l'humanité tout entière" exactly.
FrenchyLamia 29 April 2009 at 12:35am Posts: 446 (0 today) Status: offline
I don't mind if my following words are going to be considered "shocking", but I think the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was right when he accused Israel of being a "racist State", during the Durban anti-racist conference. For sure I don't like this man who has often said very violent and provocative things towards Israel, and who runs a sexist and violent policy towards his own people, but when he says right things, why do the Europeans hypocritically have to go out of the assembly room. . . There is no reason why trusting diplomacy, such hypocrisy has been disgusting.
Pascale Rutillet eye 29 April 2009 at 10:36am Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
The first reason Frenchy is that dealing with "european" attitude towards Israel, things are very complicated and intricated. - from one hand, it is only recently with Miterrand and Chirac as presidents that French people began to have a look to their own responsabilities in being part of the process that led to the Shoa. french autorities of the time worked alongside german nazis to hunt down jews families during the war. That's historical fact. - on the other hand all French governements were always diligent in supporting Israelian government, due to the fact that war between Palestinian and Israelian was a major mean to sell arms (never forget the financial aspect of things) - as a whole western governments have been suffering towards Israelian government a kind of guiltiness as consequence of theit own political action during the war. One historical fact for exemple is that both english and American government were knowing quite right since 1943 on the reality behind concentration camps and didn't even throw a bomb on the railway line leading to Dashow, while they were razing german cities and citizen such as Dresde. the fact will have slow the process but political priorities weren't clearly there.
Pascale Rutillet eye 29 April 2009 at 10:55am Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
all that historical background led to the fact that in France mostly,it is impossible to critise the Israelian policy on strict facts, without beeing considered first as antisemit. the tow things should remained strictly separated, as well as any government should avoid the melting between policy and religiousity, Iran as well as Israel.We are the real responsible of the conflict historically for not having given ground from the start to the creation of two states, and to my own point of view the main responsability is to be found on the side of those who have been giving a territory that didn't belonged to them. In my own point of view only voices such as the one heard up will make things change. The story of that conflict is just like a famiial neurosis transmited from generation to generation. One was courageous enough to try to stop the spread of it in Israel and was killed by one of his own country. one movie to be seen is on the subject is "Munich" from Spielberg who has ever be a wise and singular voice dealing with that subject. He come to demonstrate the link between this conflict and the twin tower event. But for doing so have been mostly criticised by his own community.
Pascale Rutillet eye 29 April 2009 at 11:04am Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
one thing that hurt me most while I was doing genealogical research on my family has been to have into hands the paper by which French authorities had been remooving the french nationality to one person presumably of my family, on the sole ground of birth leading him at 20 years old straight to camp.and this occured in the same country that gave the world the first writting of human rights chart. the good one has been to be informed that he was a survivor of the great march. :-] :-]
FrenchyLamia 29 April 2009 at 11:08am Posts: 446 (0 today) Status: offline
You are absolutely right, Rainbow, but the consequences of that never-ending guilt of the Europeans are that Palestiniens keep on dying and suffering, and the whole Arabian world is fed up with such unfairness and unpunished cruelty from Israel. . . By the way, I saw "Munich" at the pictures a few years ago: I liked it very much !
Pascale Rutillet eye 29 April 2009 at 11:12am Posts: 6326 (0 today) Status: offline
and to end there's no other way than the one to use diplomacy, it's the same that at individual level speaking and exchanging in respecting the other side is the only way to solve problem. A though there to Nelson Mandela as an example both moral and politic of the kind of responsible actions evry politician and diplomat should use.

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