Paul Cronin wrote:
whom would you all of rather had singing for Genesis if not Phil?
Mallet24 January 2008 at 7:12pmPosts: 276 (0 today)Status: offline
What about Steve Hackett's brother, John?
I was listening to his album Checking out of London and when the track Whispers played i had to check who the vocalist was! I presume it is John Hackett singing.
Having listened to the track again it's certainly a passing resemblence to PG, in parts.
Alvin Stardust sings Genesis - now that would sell!
phensman24 January 2008 at 7:13pmPosts: 1841 (0 today)Status: offline
Mallet, it would certainly be a wonderful gift for someone you didn't like!
glo24 January 2008 at 7:17pmPosts: 289 (0 today)Status: offline
well, I don't know about THAT. . .but I would ask Phil about
"Ooh, build myself a tower. No way in, no way out. Then my friends can visit me. . .once in a while."
dude? there's no way in OR out. . .
phensman24 January 2008 at 7:19pmPosts: 1841 (0 today)Status: offline
They are metaphysical friends Glo. Obviously Phil didn't have any real ones(not many here now either) :-]
stanley24 January 2008 at 10:43pmPosts: 43 (0 today)Status: offline
Why the continual slaughter of Phil. I saw him perform Carpet Crawlers at Twickenham last year and it was awesome, made me cry. Saw Peter at Blickling Hall a few weeks later and he made me cry.
You keep knocking Phil, but he was part of the magic 35 years ago, that you all keep going back too. The guy had the guts to step up to the plate after PG left and they produced Trick of the Tail a fantasic album!!!
And Seconds Out is a great album.
So Pleasssssse you don,t have to love the guy, but give him a bit of respect :-] :-] :-]
nechesh25 January 2008 at 12:21amPosts: 1111 (0 today)Status: offline
I do give Phil some respect. He was a GREAT drummer and i will admit he is a good showman, though his taste in tunes is not my own. However, i must agree that he hasn't a clue what the Lamb album was about and has pretty much said as much, so i must agree that he should just leave that old material alone.
Who should Genesis have gotten to replace Peter. Maybe this guy:
T-DOGG25 January 2008 at 12:38amPosts: 2359 (0 today)Status: offline
Did everyone pay attention to the beginning?
That's EXACTLY what we true officionados are trying to get across.
It's like trying to compare God to Jerry Falwell.
phensman25 January 2008 at 8:03amPosts: 1841 (0 today)Status: offline
T , I'll take your word for it, seeing as I don't know who either of those two guys are. :-]
glo25 January 2008 at 3:04pmPosts: 289 (0 today)Status: offline
Yet. . . I don't think any of US appreciate the depths of Phil's pain. It can all be traced back to And Then There Were Three. First suffering the loss of Peter and Steve as well!! I believe that ALL of Phil's emotive lyrics since that time have been an impassioned cry for the return of his bandmates. I gave And There Were 3 a good listen last night and what a sordid tale it is!! :-]
From the opening riff we hear a defiant, dare I say an ANGRY and aggressive Genesis laying down a monster grOOve along with. . ."A more COMMERCIAL view A FRESHER FACE!!!" uh-huh. . .carry on
MORE passionate cries to Peter and Steve. . .
"you and I both know the score!!"
and the on to Undertow as Phil walks the cold streets of Manhattan in search of an answer. . .
"stand UP to the blow. . that fate has struck upon you. . .make the most of all you still have coming to you!"
Things now begin to get interesting as Phil is on a quest of self-discovery. . .
"the weather was HARD. . .and SO were the men. . .!"
uh-huh. . .
"the trouble didn't start 'til the MEN WERE IN BED!!!"
"a whoopin and a hollerin' and FLASHING their knives!!"
Snowbound then tells a s0rdid tale of descent into Cocaine addiction. . ."a snow years a good year!!"
(I'm jokin people!!)
Phil regains his strength, but his longing for Peter remains!!! He pleads to Peter to "GO WEST", leave your native land and come to where the flavour IS. . .WEST to America!!
"If you knew then what you know today!!
You'd be BACK where you STARTED a HAPPIER MAN!!!"
Realizing the futility of Steve's return, let alone PG's, Phil resigns himself to quiet desperation. . .
"the part was fun but now it's over. . .why can't I just leave the stage!?!?!"
glo25 January 2008 at 3:54pmPosts: 289 (0 today)Status: offline
The pain of betrayal is ALL over And Then There Were 3. . .
Despite his attempt to veil it,Phil is really engaged in a passionate monologue to Peter and Steve. . .
He imagines what some of Peter's responses would be to his cry for his return. . .
and Peter says, "your visions are lifelike and full of imagination. . ." Phil, 'strange to think they came from such a tiny head!!"
Again, Phil retreats into the warm comfort of "spirits". . ."to blow on the glass to know I'm alive. . ."
We just can't comprehend the pain of signing "ya' gotta' get in to get out. . ."
H227 January 2008 at 7:58amPosts: 18 (0 today)Status: offline
CC doesn't belong to Peter. It belongs to Genesis. And if the members of Genesis see fit to offer it as a gift to their fans, I don't see why anyone would need to disparage. Phil has always done a great job with it.