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You will learn it here, quickly, thats another good side effect

Is this not also true of men? OOoooh sorry. . .if you got me wrong! I forgot to include MEN also! This (what i wrote) includes EVERY Gender! I am fighting for womens rights for about 20 years! But that. . .you couldn`t know!

true true!

(To Chi that was)

Don't worry, general pictures appeared, in normal talks this happens all the time, in a non offensive quiet voice and smiling. Thats what keeps a talk going. Nobody is perfect, to say it flatly. Its alright, right?

I don't know about less women being into PG, but I can kind of understand the unromantic factor. This does not have any bearing on his actual talent. You can be a genius in music but not necessarily have the ballads be compromised of mostly sentimental material. But for me, and this is only my personal opinion here, is that I cannot get attached to an artist's repertoire if his repertoire is devoid of music that shows a more sensitive, sentimental, emotional, and gentle side to it. As much as PG's music is one of a kind, I could not have the same feel for the music if there were not some "romantic" ballads as the ones on US. By romantic I am not talking about sappy sugary sentimentality per se but the display of human emotions that we are sometimes shy of displaying: tears, fears of loneliness, lost love, desire to be loved, desire to be "one" with the person we love, etc. I like lyrics that cover all dimensions and if the artist only contained love songs, that would also be missing something. I would be wondering if they had enough substance, if their melodies were not exceptional. But at the same, an absense of love songs leaves me feeling like something is missing from the artist's collections of songs.

Let's see now. How many of the PG-fans I know (not internet friends) are female respectively men? -Counting- Yup, it's 50-50!

"I forgot to include MEN also! This (what i wrote) includes EVERY Gender!" okay, sounds like we're in agreement then. I think it really just comes down to the individual rather than a gender as a whole. Some individuals don't want to have to think about what they listen to, and some individuals *need* to think about it. I have to force myself sometimes to stop over-analyzing every little thing around me, while some people I know seem to have absolutely no concept of irony, metaphor, satire, or anything else than you have to think about. I have not noticed that any of this behaviour occurs more often in men or women, it just occurs in people. Intelligence is sometimes a factor, but not always. Also, if you look hard enough for a pattern, you can usually find one. Add that into the mix with learned/expected/forced gender roles and we all start to look a lot more different than we actually are. Here's a thought: Maybe, just maybe, it's true that more men like Peter's music. . . and maybe it's because Peter doesn't fit the mold of "Emotionless Man," and men who feel pressure to be emotionless find comfort in seeing a successful man writing intelligent songs with emotion without looking like a wimp. On the other side of the same coin, women like his music for the same reason, because they want a strong, intelligent and emotional man, so the numbers probably still even out. I think this applies to the music as well as lyrics, because even in songs that have little or nothing to do with "love", Peter has an incredible gift and skill for conveying emotion and mood. Moribund the Burgermeister, Intruder, The Rhythm of the Heat, Indigo, just as a tiny sampling of examples; songs like these would put across a clear feeling and atmosphere even without words. (and does he have a brother my age?? *sigh* :-] )

I like this thread :-] thank you Wings!!! it is like I would be at the hairdresser shop :-]

Happy New Year Lunatics!! I never thought about, if there are more mail or female fan's. For me as a woman it is clear, that Peter also has sensual charisma -specialy his voice- and it didn't start with "SO". His lyrics are touching me deep inside. Last year I was so happy to listen to the old pieces before "SO". I love his engagement against poverty, inhuminity and freedom. I think also that's 50/50. Meri

Yeah, interesting thread, though i think the initial premiss is incorrect. Certainly there is no research on this question to back up an answer, but it has always seemed to me that PG fans are pretty much evenly male/female. If anything i think i might know more female fans. The question of Genesis is a completely different one. I would say the almost definitely the fan base there skews male. PG Genesis (and much of the earlier post PG material) fits firmly in the genre of prog rock. I have not examined the reasons, but i would say that in general men are much more attracted to prog than women. PG's solo stuff has retained certain prog elements, but has developed into many different genres and is definitely not prog anymore. In fact, his music has so many influences i find it pretty hard to catagorize. But it certainly seems to attract many more female fans than his work with Genesis did

**Lilly,you cannot think that all women are like you and think like you!I love his songs,they touch both my heart and my brain!! That makes a girl swoon?Don't generalize!!Peter is your man?Depends if he wants you! I have some doubts about it.**Aldaloaldo 11-Jan-2008 6:33 pm First of all, i never suggested that all women are like me. All women are different obviously. When i said. "Peter is my man"~ it's American slang for "He's what i'm in to, i think he's amazing, etc etc" I didn't mean: He's my boyfriend, step off. Frankly i didn't think anything that i wrote in this thread warranted the blatant nastiness that i got in return.

cat fight!! wooo hooo!! :-]

nice touch, Pathagoras. lololololololololololololol

Vampire Lily ! t.

Nothing nasty from me, Lilly (but I know that slang. . .and about a lot of underlying unreasonable jealousy here, hehe, its more a kind of fun to watch at times)

Strange, I always thought that Gabby's pretty popular with women. Hmmmmm.