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My goodness Vampire Lily your so wrong! Phil is a legend, he's up there with Mr Gabriel himself!! The work he's done is amazing! I mean you wouldn't have the drumming gorilla on the chocolate advert if it wasn't for him! I mean In the air tonight - c'mon!!!!

Bern, Did you think i wouldn't notice your avatar of PC in a sombrero? What a tricky trickster you are! Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars, Illegal Alien~

Phil is just a misunderstood cheeky cockney chappie. :-]

i could never understand how he got away with copying pink floyds 'wish you were here' with 'how i wish would rain now'. its nearly the same words and just about the same musical chorus in the way he sings it . he should not have bothered with reunion without peter it may as well be a solo thing. he even changed his look to look like peter haha yeah hes a total tool up to 10 its goes . woops the tool meter has smashed

I could never understand the want or need to constantly 'remake' other peoples music. Everytime i go some place i'm being haunted by 'You Can't Hurry Love' or Cyndi Laupers 'True Colors'. Honestly, if you're such a fucking genius why not paddle your own boat, so to speak, eh? (Considers deleting that last bit) Nah, i guess i'll just be a bad kitty. p.s. i love you Peter

Did you like the picture of PC Vampire Lily? I must say I enjoy those covers by Mr. Collins, there's nothing better then chilling at night listening to them with a bit of 'Red Rain' from our hero PG to follow. Oh and there's no need for bad language you seem too much of an intellectual for that now! Naughty girl! :-] Oh by the way being BRITISH (like Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins) I would not collect two hundred pounds!!!

Phil is actually Swiss! :-]

Nah, he just lives there right?! They said so in Green Wing.

Yeah he definately lives there. I heard some strange rumour about taxes and the like, but I think thats unfair. The man just loves mountains and chocolate. :-]

Funny enough - our hero Mr. Gabriel seems to like him quite abit as he was Peters best man at his last wedding. Hmmmmm. Hey VL knowing you don?t even care for Genesis with or with out Peter whets the big bash for any - just opinion I guess. When I met Phil and the boys last October when Genesis was in Chicago they all very nice and approachable. They say she comes on a pale horse but I am sure I hear a train??.

I don,t get all the PC bashing. While Phil was never born with the depth of talent of PG. He was part of one of the greatest line ups of musical talent that produced Selling England by the Pound, the finest album ever. And as said earlier Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering are beautiful albums with Phil at his very best. Admittedly the last few solo albums are not great, but give the guy some credit for his work and he was great at the recent live shows with Genesis. Calling him a tool is very cruel. So come on guys lighten up!!!!!

Hurray for Stanley!! Very well put my friend. Oh and Phensman - you are a cheeky monkey, swiss indeed! :-]

Fair enough, lads~ i'm sure upon reading any of this Mr. Collins would think i was a tool too. (I don't have the right accessories for that but maybe he'd like to choose another word?) LOL i'll try to be a goof kitty from here on out.

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why are you talking about Collins and in this terms, here in the Gabriel Forum's site? I' m not a Phil's solo fun, but I'm a Genesis fan and for me, Genesis are Genesis. From 1968 to 2008. I' don't like Sussudio but I like In the air tonight,a masterpiece of popular music, for example. I respect all the artists. Collins is a great drummer and he was very good and very brave to keep the microphone in 1976. (He did it with Peter too, hasn't it?). If you like to compare Phil and Peter, i can say that Phil doesn't get the same culture and the same roots of Peter. Ciao con simpatia.

"Genesis are Genesis. From 1968 to 2008." Uuuuuuuh. . . THIS. . . with all Sympathy to a Forum-Buddy. . . is ABSOLUTELY EYE + EARBLIND, Pisainb !!!! That would mean PG + PC are singing together in ONE Band today. 1975 was the Year when the original Genesis became a Copy of themselfs. What existed THEN, was a Band who had the (Copy)right on this Name. . . I DON`T say, that this Musicians did BAD Music in the following 2 - 3 Years! Trick + Wind & Wuthering was good Stuff! SURE! What we have NOW. . . is some kind of Barry Manilow-Combo! Imagine they play Copacabana!!! I don`t blame Musicians if i never could proof it. So i saw the 2007 Concert in Germany. It came like i expected. . . Gigantic Stage, not that gigantic Performance. . .it was a sad Feeling,no Shiver through the Bones! The BIGGEST STAGE ON EARTH can NOT perform the Magic, Peter had in his little Finger from the Start until "The Lamb"! Sorry Pisainb. . . Mr. C is not a "Tool"; he`s a singing Clown, who had the Luck that God gave him once the Idea for "In the Air tonight". But, as it always was and IS: Musicians have their greatest Ideas when they suffer. And Mr. C wrote that song when he was in the Process of Divorce. I`m out now of this god damned Thread. . .

And In the Air drum sound was found how.? In Peter's studio as he and Steve Lillywhite were twisting knobs for noise gating Phil's drums. It became the trademark "silo sound " on many recordings in the music industry, but the first one to open the barn door was Mr. PG.

(cringes) kids, When i first came here, the one thing that i noticed above all others is that even though there are many different types of folks here there still seemed to be a mutual respect & admiration of each other. That made me want to be part of the experience. This is getting waaaaaaay out of hand. I would never EVER want a stupid, silly personal opinion to cause grief on these boards. Funny thing about personal preferences~ that's all they are. Personal Preferences. As you get to know me a little better you'll realize that even though i can be a little sarcastic and out-spoken, i have a soft heart. I don't like PC, that's true but i wouldn't want to offend anyone with the hows and whys. Maybe we can start a new thread? Something a little more positive that can lend sustenence to an amazing site? Until then, let's be good to each other~ Lil

Okay, he would call you a tOOlette. Men have become the tool of their tools. H.D. Thoreau

Blimey is nt this getting heavy!!!! RayRay Wot did that all mean, far too deep for a simple soul like me who just loves to hear a good tune. Simply put, I love PG I love PC and I love Genesis. They have all had highs and lows, but I love them for that. Just enjoy them and cut out all the trumped up meandering twaddle!!!!! PS: Vampire Lily, I think I luv you!!!! (married with 4 kids, but we can all dream!!)