Geosport14 April 2011 at 2:50pmPosts: 12 (0 today)Status: offline
I've never heard Wallflower live, it would be great if pg could play it at the Toronto show. I would be smiling and crying at the same time!
Hopefully The Nest That Sailed the Sky too!
Ela14 April 2011 at 3:20pmPosts: 1334 (0 today)Status: offline
Unless he changes up the current set list, you will probably hear both of these songs.
Pat Parker14 April 2011 at 8:24pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
As Ela has mentioned, you will most likely get to hear both songs (unless he closes with something other than The Nest).
Many people already know how I feel about Wallflower - I have always said and still feel that Wallflower is PG's best song ever. I was never quite sure why it struck me the way it did, but it did and I can barely hear the first 3 notes without feeling overwhelmed by it.
Wallflower is on Security (PG IV) and whenever I listen to that cd, I realize that it's also my favorite album overall - it only has 8 songs on it, but I'll be damned if every single one of 'em isn't the cream of the crop!!
I had heard Wallflower one time before during an Amnesty show - a long, long time ago. I can understand why he didn't always have it in the set because it might not always be a good "concert" song, but for me, it's just the absolute, best damned song he's ever written. All these years later, nothing he has written has replaced it in my number #1 choice of songs (and I love just about everything PG does, so the list is quite long, but #1 still is Wallflower).
I was surprised in London when he performed it - because he did so very early on in the show. I immediately had tears in my eyes and thought, "Damn, Peter, you got me crying at the 2nd song! But, thank you!" :-] :-]
So, just like you and many others, I'm hoping it always stays in the set list this time 'round.
flyguy14 April 2011 at 9:36pmPosts: 136 (0 today)Status: offline
Likely will be early in the set list as he has said recently that it is hard to sing these days.I hope it stays in the rotation song 2 or 3 likely
Pat Parker14 April 2011 at 9:39pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Hey Flyguy - thanks for that tidbit of info - I didn't know that is why he does it so early - is it difficult for him to sing in the lyrical/musical context or the emotional/meaningfulness of the song??? (For me, it would probably be all of the above :-]).
flyguy14 April 2011 at 10:26pmPosts: 136 (0 today)Status: offline
voice wise the Looong Hold Ons.the low to higher notes as well.
flyguy14 April 2011 at 10:30pmPosts: 136 (0 today)Status: offline
On a side note i wonder if this will be the last tour of North America at his age and his slow work output.I/O will likely never see the light of day.
Pat Parker15 April 2011 at 3:31amPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
I never like to let myself think about the fact that there might not ever be another cd or another tour - I think that's just my own personality and it's the way I am about with just about everything in life. It's weird, I obviously know there's an end to things, but I think I'm just of the mindset that things will go on forever :-]
I know that PG is very slow in his process, but as I've gotten older and have gotten caught up in time warps myself - I sometimes have a few projects going at a time and when I return to one, I realize it's been x number of years since I worked on it - time really does seem to pass by more quickly the older we get - although I don't know why that is.
In Peter's case, he does get involved in so many things (many of them are very worthwhile and I'm sure that they're all pleasing to him - otherwise, I don't think he'd be involved) and I believe he has the best intentions, but gets sidetracked on things.
As for touring, I again, hope that Peter will continue to tour and hopefully after this tour, he will concentrate on new material and tour then.
I recently learned that Peter is still feeling a financial loss from the Growing Up and Still Growing Up tour - it was a huge production (which is what I admire most about PG - he's never been afraid to take that risk). However, I remember when the tour began in the USA, most venues were undersold. I hadn't thought about that it might have been considered a "loss" but that's what I recently learned.
Peter has mentioned that after this tour, he will put the New Blood material to bed and I would like to think that he'll do at least one more tour with Tony, David, Ged and Richard . . . but, here I go again, forever hopeful :-] . . .
and, of course, there's always that Genesis reunion that he needs to do :-]:-] . . .
FarCry15 April 2011 at 5:27pmPosts: 63 (0 today)Status: offline
Sticking my oar in here, just to agree wholeheartidely with the opinions of Wallflower! I've mentioned this before, but Hammersmith pretty much blew my little mind!
Going with a 'clean slate' so to speak, meant that MOST of the songs I heard started on a level playing field and Wallflower was certainly one (of a loooooong list) that night that cemented my belief that I needed to check this guy out more!
Oh and sorry if I've already asked this, but Pat, which Hammy gig did you attend?
Ela16 April 2011 at 12:18amPosts: 1334 (0 today)Status: offline
FarCry-did you go to The Swan, before either of the Hammersmith shows? Which show were you at?
flyguy16 April 2011 at 12:19amPosts: 136 (0 today)Status: offline
the growing up tour in North America played large venues and after a 10 year absence on the scene with out new material Peter admitted that was "to ambitious"
flyguy16 April 2011 at 12:24amPosts: 136 (0 today)Status: offline
I feel that this may in fact be his last time around.with the way the music scene is these days it is tough to sell a new record when you take 10 years to finish a project.I say go support this 12 date North America Tour and enjoy every minute.
FarCry16 April 2011 at 4:24pmPosts: 63 (0 today)Status: offline
@Ela Hi! No I did not alas. I was there on the Wed. 23rd
Pat Parker16 April 2011 at 5:47pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
For Far Cry - I also attended the Wed 23rd show (and I attended the Swan on that night, as well). I was fortunate to have a nice seat - Row J Lft Orchestra, so my view of the entire stage was great, with having the perfect view of Peter throughout.
I must say here (and am not sure if this person even reads the forums) that at the end of the show, when Solsbury Hill started, a few lunies headed toward the stage - I followed suit! I thought, "Oh, what the hell, let 'em arrest me if they have to, I'm going home tomorrow anyway!"
Well, I was stagefront for Solsbury Hill and all of the songs that followed. I did not realize that I would stay there until the end (I thought for sure that someone would hustle us back to our seats, but it didn't happen).
When the show ended with The Nest and the lights immediately came up and people immediately started leaving the venue, panic began to set in - I had left my seat with my bag which contained all of my personal belongings - my passport, all my money, my everything! The bag was under my seat, but the seat goes up when it's empty. My row was a crossroads for the exit (and men's room). I walked back to my seat with a real sense of dread and was telling myself how stupid I was to have done such a thing.
When I got back to my seat, I saw the man who had been sitting next to me during the show - this man and I had exchanged only a brief Hello and a smile - he was German, spoke hardly any English and I only speak American :-], so we just had a very polite, quiet exchange in the very beginning of the show.
The man was standing at the seat and when I approached, he said, "A good show!", shook my hand and walked away. I'm not sure (and probably will never be), but I think he realized that my bag was there, unattended and he remained until I came back to my seat. Talk about decent Peter Gabriel fans, eh? I am so grateful to him and to all of the others who walked by without taking my "life" with them.