DolceVita10 February 2011 at 2:20pmPosts: 2323 (0 today)Status: offline
Problem is that you are not alone in a concert,so you can do something but always not to disturb other people that payed ticket like you. . .(i mean an impersonal "you" of course).
For ex: Caste, do you remember O2Arena London? the audience was quiet,only at the end we clapped our hands (and only people in front of stage stand up).
Everything different in Verona.
So. . . .it depends on where you are and how kind of crowd,but i agree that you can not do what you want. .
By the way Caste,lucky you that you will go in London again to see our Peter,unfortunately we can not go,so please. . . greet Peter for us with a smile,an applause and a big kiss,if you might. . .thanks!
. . .and have a fantastic concert!
I will do so, Dolce - providing no one is dancing his ass off before me or clapping or singing along like he is the star of the show, so that I won't actually *see* PG (which I paid for) but some random guy's neck instead.
Ela10 February 2011 at 6:54pmPosts: 1334 (0 today)Status: offline
I hope you are not sitting behind me Caste! You might want to watch out for some dancing!
mohawk slade11 February 2011 at 10:30pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
i have been to numerous Gabriel gigs and am always
amazed at the apathy of his fans , I think people
are far too self concious when it comes to getting
to their feet , what's wrong with you all??? He's
living legend and puts so much time and effort into
his shows, I used to perform regularly in bands and
I can tell you for a fact that playing your arse
off to a room full of people who are just sitting
there is soul destroying, on the other hand when
people do make the effort it's amazing what it does
for the artist.
So I hope any of you who are attending Hammersmith
will take this on board,have that extra drink to
lower your inhibitions and shake your booty for"The
rael912 February 2011 at 3:17amPosts: 36 (0 today)Status: offline
Well I beleive that at ANY concert, there is a time for standing and for sitting. Yes, many songs and encores, people should get up and dance, but really a whole 3 hours to stand and look at the back of the heads of people that refuse to sit, not everyone can stans that lonfg or see above the 6 foot guy with a fro! And guess what when you sit down , everyone gets to see. Went to a U@ concert a had second row in the balcony and the three people in front of us in the front row stood up the whole show! Now I will only sit in a front row so can can acutuaaly see the preformance and enjoy it. Bough tickets to see The Wall in chicago and SAT in the first row in the balcony. everyone on the main floor was standing looking at a wall of brick, is that really nessary, it is ony becoausde if you sit down, your just looking at a bunch of asses around you, (pun intended), We are very enthusastic about our music here in the U.S. also (and the groupd know it. Just getting a bit to old for all that drunk rubbish stuff I guess.
@Mohawk: "So I hope any of you who are attending Hammersmith will take this on board, have that extra drink to lower your inhibitions and shake your booty for "The Guv'nor."
And whoever stands before me, I hope he has many many extra drinks so that he can get rid not only of his inhibitions - but also of his liver.
sidihbibi12 February 2011 at 2:50pmPosts: 46 (0 today)Status: offline
People who like to sit have nothing to worry about in March: It's with an orchestra. It's in a seated theatre. It's a PG UK concert. Everything suggests a lot of cosy sitting.
I must remember to bring a glass cage to erect around myself in case I sneeze next to Caste! Only joking!
I hope EVERYone has a goooood tiime!
But surely most of the time, LIVE music is for active audiences who want to be part of it. If you (in general) want to be passive, watch a DVD at home.
Fidelity12 February 2011 at 7:25pmPosts: 313 (0 today)Status: offline
Surely there are spots for standing, if theres one thing i hate more than people ruining live experiences its people living their own life in movie theaters.
Talking out loud etc.
When they are confronted they blame it on everyone else and says the guards are disrespectful.
I have a very darwinian approach to stupid or ignorant people, you don't want to hear it.
In short, i'm on Castes side.
mohawk slade13 February 2011 at 1:49amPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
Nice comment. Very well thought out.
very intelligent.good argument .well
you've certainly put me in my place that's
for sure.I'll be going away to think
about what I've Done.
I'm assuming you understand sarcasm
but then again.
Glad I put you in your place: at least you won't stand before me at the concerts.
mohawk slade18 February 2011 at 8:20pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
If I knew you were behind me I would most
definitely be on my feet.even if I
didn't feel like standing.I'm just
that way inclined , trust me you'd be dancing
with me before long. :-]
Ela19 February 2011 at 4:37pmPosts: 1334 (0 today)Status: offline
I'll dance with you Mohawk! Where are you sitting at the shows?
mohawk slade19 February 2011 at 5:22pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
Hi Ela,quite close to the front , row "H" I
think , have you got a good seat???
Was at the "02" gig ,,,, it was a blast.
One of the best experiences of my life.
can't wait to do it again.
Ela20 February 2011 at 5:27pmPosts: 1334 (0 today)Status: offline
I'm several rows behind you.row X. Hopefully we'll meet up beforehand, at a gathering at a pub, or somewhere. We're still trying to sort out plans with everyone. If you stand up in Row H, then others behind you will stand, causing a chain reaction enabling me to stand and dance with no trouble in Row X.
dagobah20 February 2011 at 9:49pmPosts: 47 (0 today)Status: offline
Here's a concert experience I had. I went to an Alicia Keys concert at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in 2008. I paid $150 for my ticket. That's a lot of money for my small income. I was on the floor in front of the stage area with an assigned seat (fold-up chairs). I seem to remember being about row 20 or something. My particular row was the FIRST row of my section. Which means there was about 12 feet of open space between me and the next section (also fold-up chairs) in front of me. People were regularly walking in both directions through that open space during both the opening act and the main act. People were either going to the restroom or the concession stand. I was actually shocked at how many people walked by. I didn't even consider leaving until the concert was over.
Ne-Yo was the opening act. Everyone stayed seated around me and I was worried it would be the same while Alicia performed. I stayed seated during Ne-Yo because I'm not a fan of Ne-Yo. I was at the concert because of Alicia Keys. Most people were, too. She was the main act. After Ne-Yo finished, I joked with some of the people around me about this issue of staying seated. I was light-hearted about the whole thing. One of things I said was "I don't attend many concerts, but I always see everyone standing when I watch the DVDs of concerts".
Here's what happened: people stayed seated when Alicia Keys started performing. I felt so confined. But I accepted it and stayed seated, too. I just hoped that EVENTUALLY, people would stand because . . . . we were at an Alicia Keys concert. Alicia Keys! Most of her concert songs are going to be "get up from your seat" kind of songs. And guess what? Eventually, some time during the concert, most everyone stood. I just had to have some patience. My reason for staying seated until everyone else stood: I was afraid of a possible confrontation
If large video screens are available, why not show messages at the beginning of each song? I know this sounds like "micro-managing", but hear me out:
For upbeat songs, the screens could say: This song is a "get up from your seat" song so please stand up, people!
For mellow songs, the screens could say: This song is a "chill song" so please sit down.
I doubt this would ever happen, but I think it could deal with this issue effectively.
- it wouldn't make people stand the entire time
- it would allow people to stand (during certain songs)
The performer would decide (before the tour even starts) what video message goes with what song.
Now . . . . it's probably not necessary for a Megadeath concert or a Marilyn Manson concert, but it could be useful at a Peter Gabriel or an Alicia Keys concert (because even Alicia plays a few mellow piano ballads at her concerts).
Pat Parker20 February 2011 at 11:07pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
Thank you for sharing your experience and I like your idea - I think it can sometimes be a bit intimidating to wanna follow the crowd, yet wanna have your own fun also! You should suggest it for future concerts (perhaps PG would even try it at this next show :-])
I took note of your mentioning the fact that you were in the first row of a new section - that has happened to me before also and I absolutely agree with you - the extra space between the sections is an automatic pathway for folks who are moving about during the show.
In working in events in the past, one of the venues I worked at (Mann Music Center in Philadelphia, PA) had its main entrance into the house in between its two main sections(it has outdoor seating, as well).
Because people continually enter/exit the venue during a performance, we used to allow a person to exit, but would hold people until a song was completed before allowing them to return to their seats. This was especially true if it was a more mellow-type performance and an absolute requirement for The Philadelphia Orchestra shows. However, when we had shows such as Steve Miller, Jimmy Buffet, etc., we allowed people to come/go as they pleased, unless otherwise instructed by the performers.
As a side note - Ricki Lee Jones is a concert that I particularly always remember as being so strange. She always DEMANDED in no uncertain terms that NO ONE be seated during her set - here she was, in her hillbilly-blues-barefoot-washboard-playing way, demanding that event staff not allow anyone to sit during her songs. Once during a song (it was @ the 3rd song if I remember correctly), she actually continued playing, but said, "Security, please don't seat people while I'm performing" . . . and continued with her song, never missing a beat. By the 4th song, no one in the audience was moving at all and she encouraged them, "You can dance, if you'd like" - the audience was very confused as to whether or not they were allowed to move. I actually would allow people to return to their seats only if they promised to dance all the way there! :-]
Anyway, I'm all for everyone having their own good time while allowing others to do the same - I think it's safe to say that we won't be rumbling about during PG's show! :-]