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Forums » Live » O2 SUCKS! . Nice last night in Hamburg though!
Apache3 October 2010 at 11:51pmPosts: 134 (0 today)Status: offline
Gotta sleep over this first before blaming anyone mistakenly! Just to share the news. great gig. the nosebleeds completely curtained off cause of poor sales. the inner filled with a lame and supposingly rich crowd - nevertheless PG managed to get even those folks out of their seats in the end. and if it was only for a few seconds before they had to put their voluminous bottom ends back to their seat. *G*
Setlist: No drop . no wallflower . nothing else special except an oversized Book Of Love being presented to PG . Pic to follow asap.
One thing is for sure though . O2 Sucks. to start with a redicoulouzs cue to get in with an empty O2 Member Entrances right beside . to a dramatically understaffed catering crew and absolutely worst. they were MUSIC playing in the catering areas to promote whatever mobile contract. the most disturbing thing I have ever noticed at a concert. Tonights Samples. before you got in . The mushy carpet crawlers PG genesis version .after the gig ended with Nest . SLEDGEHAMMER original version . now THATS what one does NOT need after the final New Blood Gig !!! GIVE ME A BREAK!
Anyhow . GREAT Tour . and if you can choose. go anywhere . but not to Hamburg (talking about the O2 Arena) Cologne rocked! Mannheim with best sound . Hamburg avoid.
rraven4 October 2010 at 2:33amPosts: 3102 (0 today)Status: offline
Christ, Apache, how many of these gigs did you get to see? (Heaves a big sigh of relief that I chose Leipzig and not Hamburg.)
Sammy The Slug4 October 2010 at 6:03amPosts: 1040 (0 today)Status: offline
Thanks a lot Apache for the review. By reading your post, i think it's a shame really that the tour ended like that. Let's hope Peter will not be too much disappointed and that he will give more New Blood shows.
Did he sing "Carpet Crawlers"? really?
Apache4 October 2010 at 6:48amPosts: 134 (0 today)Status: offline
Er . no Sammy . he did NOT play ccrawlers - in the stylish so called BLUE LOUNGE or whatever there was a sales booth or whatever and the guy there found it necessary to supply the catering area with music from tape / cd. And to avoid another misunderstanding the BLUE thing is not a VIP booth or something its the main catering area in the arena if u r holding tkts for the floor.
Anyhow. apart from the surrounding experiences the gig itself was flawless and perfect as usual. Still Cologne would have been a more appropriate last stop of the tour if u compare both gigs.
Sammy The Slug4 October 2010 at 8:13amPosts: 1040 (0 today)Status: offline
Thank you Apache! It was very early this morning when i read your post. Maybe i was not awake properly. Surely i need to improve my english too!
marmissf4 October 2010 at 2:25pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
Don't know in which concert you were. I was in Hamburg, too, row five (me no voluminous bottom end btw). The atmosphere was great and the crowd really was awake, giving lots of applause. Don't know what you are expecting beyond that? The crowds excitement precisely followed the mood of the music. The SMB half quieter, the second half more and more enthusiasm. And yes: Me I missed more special actions because of the last concert and/or because of the German holiday of reunion (eg Wallflower). Yes, Peter was really great in singing, and we the crowd were great in listening. If you miss even more excitement of the crowd, I miss more mystical interaction and communication of PG with the crowd. He seemed to much concentrated on the teleprompters.
But all that written: O2 World sucks, yes. Ok, sound was ok, but after the show: Slegdehammer (yes ), only one exit door, and no staff on the parking lots to help all those cars to leave.
Apache4 October 2010 at 7:38pmPosts: 134 (0 today)Status: offline
Ok Marmissf. I herewith take back the volouminous bottom end part that was written in a state of immediate afterenjoyment last night and maybe influenced by a too subjective view
Anyhow . after all we seem to agree. O2 Arena is no good yet the gig was great. It's just been difficult cause the night before was even better. To sum it up Cologne and Hamburg are different cities after all. aren't they. :-]
marmissf4 October 2010 at 7:49pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
Yes, Apache, indeed they are. The Cologne people might be carnival people, whereas the Hamburg people are more northern and serious minded.
But. I also read the comments on the German Fan Site (peter-gabriel.net) and some people there are complaining about too much disturbing noises from the crowd (coming/leaving/talking/food and drink sellers). =
marmissf4 October 2010 at 7:53pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
P.S. The noise complaints belong to the Cologne concert.
Apache4 October 2010 at 8:45pmPosts: 134 (0 today)Status: offline
ya'know. I can't hear respectively read those complaints about whatever folks are doing in a PG concert anymore. if apparent PG Fans pretend in the year 2010 to be disturbed by somebody picking up a beer or taking a leak thats only a sign that they've turned old in the head after all. I bet folks pretending to be upset about this non-issue have at a 90% ratio never attended a REAL Opera or whatever . where it is a serious fellony to make any movement or - god forbid - any noise. All gigs I've seen the crowd was dead quiet, extremely alert to what is happening on stage . and both Cologne and Hamburg . and Mannheim or whatever gig has been completely peaceful. NoOne should adapt the behaviour of Opera visitors just because PG has been doing this as of now. And very most likely the folks complaining today have been the first ones sacrificing to the porcelain god back in the eighties. give me a break ! What will these folks be complaining about once T.Levin and a guitar comes back into the game? Too noisy? *G* Get a life!
Apart from that I've watched the majority of both Cologne and Hamburg from way back and top of the arenas. and there was absolutely no hassle or whatever within the crowd. here and there some folks arriving late . moving somewhere or - god forbid again - picking up a beer *G*
Concerning food sellers I have to agree . they have no place in something like this. but these folks I've only seen up in the upper seats.not on the floor. Concerning incompetent camera / mobile owners I have also to agree. In Verona there were two right beside me who were incapable of switching of the BEEP when taking pics. *G*
marmissf4 October 2010 at 9:31pmPosts: 6 (0 today)Status: offline
Full ack with cameras and food sellers!
Well, it's a very fine line between tolerance and feeling disturbed for me personally. No problem for me in Hamburg - the people around me were nice - ok, the guy next to my girlfriend smelled like an old beer jar.
As long as other people are aware of the fact that their neighbours are there to listen to the music and not to here the latest talk, beeps from cameras, ring tones from mobiles, etc. everything should be fine. But sometimes I think this is not understood by all people. Lack of enduring attention and mutual consideration (mmh, right english???) surely matters more than ever in our information-and-distraction-overkill society (ask the teachers), so it should be no surprise to find these issues in concert halls, too.
Is it more than in the 80s? Don't know. But what I know: If somebody spoils my PG experience (and my 90+ EUR investment, too), I'll break him his nose!!! :-]