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Progressive jen 25 February 2012 at 5:21pm Posts: 5472 (0 today) Status: offline
Pat In my opinion everything you wrote here and in your message to Cyn was fair minded and not bullying of any sort. And yes, you are a wonderful person.
Take A Wild Guess 25 February 2012 at 7:16pm Posts: 968 (0 today) Status: offline
How is posting constant references to witchcraft or Paganism any different from a Christian posting Bible verses over and over again or every other post stating "Drink Coke"? Since the non-existent Admin is supposedly taking notes, that one was for you.
Progressive jen 25 February 2012 at 7:25pm Posts: 5472 (0 today) Status: offline
Silly question TAWG Anything Cyn does is right and if you say otherwise you are persecuting her and being a bully. If anyone else does it, it's wrong, she points that out and then if she gets any flak she was just "joking"
Pat Parker 25 February 2012 at 10:23pm Posts: 2683 (0 today) Status: offline
Decided to post my thread here to Cyn, so that you (Cyn) can read it without having to leave the secuirty of your own thread. So, here ya have it, quotations and all the words intact -- just like you like it, Cyn. For the record, no bullying, no threatening, no cursing, no harassing, no "joking", no condescending words were used in the thread below. It's as plain and organic as it can be . . . "Cyn, I will be straight up with you here and hope that you can accept what I have to say without assuming and accusing me of being mean, harsh, bullying, threatening, insane, or unstable. Please read what I have written, take time to absorb it, understand it and then act accordingly. This will be the only contact I will make with you directly and I hope that it is understood as I wish it to be. I can only hope that it will be. There may be many who criticize me for taking the time to write you, but I'm not writing to you just for you, but for me also. I want to come here to the forums when I want to and am not here to do minesweeping, which is how many of the threads end up here. I'm doing this for "me" more than you and as I've said, it will be the only contact in this regard that I will have with you. I hope you understand. Cyn, I haven't been on the forums all that regularly since November, 2011. I chose to stay away for many reasons -- personal and familunie reasons (the new forums and the lack of interesting topics (not the people)), the holidays had me very busy, etc., so I was away from here more than usual. I came here at Christmas to wish Happy Holidays and once here, I changed my profile photo to my new dog, Harry. I discovered at that time that I could not log out, so I jokingly changed my name to Lurkin' Login Logout -- because that's all I had intended to do. The past few months have remained busy with me in my life and I have slowly checked back into the site here and was finding it to still be a bit slow with uneventful news (sorry, lunies, I mean no offense, but I wasn't all that entertained while here, so I didn't stay very much). I do not visit the Roundtable Discussions -- never really did, so if there was anything happening there, I didn't know. I became a bit more active a few weeks ago and again, I was still having a problem with my login/logout and name changes. I created a few threads in Miscellaneous because I wanted to share some news, but I also knew it wasn't anything exciting and it was non-PG so I didn't want to bog down the PG threads with it. I checked back periodically to comment on some topics, etc. Now, all this to say: I believe you have been posting here for quite awhile under various names and it's all been good and quiet and peaceful -- I can't attest to that because I haven't been on here, but I take your word for it -- I believe you. Period. No other explanation needed. Apparently, when Moonstorm asked you if you were Cyn, this current trouble started. All I know is this . . . why in the world would you be offended by someone asking you if you were you? (a bit wordy, I know, but I think you get my point). Really, Cyn, even if you did not like the phrasing of the sentence, the way in which she asked you, it is absolutely confusing to me as to why you would be so "offended" ???? So, if that is what has then caused all of this mess -- and it is a mess again, Cyn, please be adult enough to accept your part in it -- you're not alone, for sure, but you have to accept your share of the mess. Cyn, you are entitled to post anything/everything you want -- we all share that same right here. However, whenever any of us lunatics have a disagreement or misunderstanding (and trust me, I'm the queen of that at times ), it's simply a matter of choosing to do one of two things: (1) take the time to resolve it and move on or (2) ignore it and cease communication with the person involved (if that's what you want) -- but all in all, we all just need to interact in the most civil ways and I believe you are capable of it and so are others. The key point is that when any of us say, "let it be" "move on" -- we must really, really, really mean it. In your case (and I'm not saying this to you in a mean or bullying way), Cyn, you really do not ever let it go. That is a serious problem because no matter what happens later (like currently), you will always bring up the past and it all begins again. I realize it's very difficult to get past things that hurt us or bother us, but eventually we do. Using the past and our past mistakes is what helps us to become the people we are and helps us to make better decisions the next time. These posts with angry, harsh, threatening, condescending, bullying discussions are so sad and disheartening to me -- this is NOT the place I used to love and it surely cannot be a good representation of what Peter Gabriel's website. Please, please, please know that I wish you no harm, no ill will, no judgment, but I really must ask that you please take some time -- away from here perhaps and instead of writing anything directed to any of the lunies who you feel are harassing you, just think about something good and creative and write it. I know that you've been doing that for awhile, and I think that it will work best for you. Know this, Cyn -- this is not about who has the last word, this is not about tit for tat; this is about what or who is important to YOU and I cannot think that any single one of us means enough to you to cause yourself to come here to this site (meant for pleasure) and get angry, upset and ill over it, really. Just go about your business, write and add to the forums just as you have in the past and trust me, it will all go away. At the same time, I will tell you that there is a very good chance that many lunies will not discuss things with you here on the forums and will most likely ignore your posts. For that, I'm sad for you, but at the same time, it's again about accountability and responsibility for the things you've said in the past and more recent days. I'm sure you must understand why someone would not want to open up to you after they've been hurt by your words over and over and over again. Cyn, you are equally as responsible for the friction here - - surely you must be able to see it and recognize it. One thing to note here: In all of the discussions of the past and the present, your words always have the same theme -- persecution -- you are always talking about how everyone else is out to get you (not those exact words, of course), how everyone else is a bully, how everyone else has done this, that or the other to "you". You then go on and on and on, using condescending words, calling people names like "dumb" etc., -- Do you see how contradictory that is? Do you see how you are acting in the very same manner? if not, worse? Do you realize that never once have you ever apologized -- truly wrote the words, "I'm really sorry that I went off the handle on . . ." but you expect everyone to be sorry and forgiving of you? (Please just take this one example and think about it). Cyn, I hope that you will read this and take it seriously -- not as a mean, harsh threat and certainly not as any expert advice, but just from one person to another. In a recent post on another thread (I wish I could find it readily), you actually pledged to carry on without fighting -- I'd like to hold you to that if you don't mind. My comments here aren't fighting words, but they are one final (and I do mean final) plea for you to please reconsider your reasons for coming here and know that you are as much a part of the forums as any one of us -- your contributions -- be they good or bad -- are a representation of you. Lastly, I do not wish for anyone else to add anything to this thread unless they can do so without using threatening, harmful, mean words. I cannot control what others will or will not write or add to this thread, but I do seriously ask that no one adds any rude comments here. That goes for you, as well, Cyn. I hope you can really understand what I'm saying here and then choose how you want to conduct yourself from this point forward. For all of the lunies, have a great day and weekend!" _____________________________ For the record, I know that one would never use quotation marks for something so lengthy, but I did it to keep it separated from anything I've written before it or here after it. Again, read it, absorb it and if afterwards, you still can continue to conduct yourself in the same way, at least there is no doubt in your mind where I stand on the subject.
Nemesis_47 26 February 2012 at 5:39pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Not reading it Pat, very tired of all the negative crap around here I see this thread almost like a personal blog - got the idea from you - I'm not forcing anyone to read it I just want to put down lyrics, stories to hone for the 744 Communications facebook page - Darruch the admin over this is fair and honest and I like him a lot - he has one vague memories at the C-ScotR mess here in Nanaimo - I was in the Canadian Scottish Regiment for about 6 months I don't remember him at all - I do remember one of the guys cleaning the ice out of the freezer, breaking a pipe and yelling for us to get out of there, cause the freeon, or whatever its called is poisenous I don't know why I bother replying to all the nasty comments meant for me - or why people feel the need to "set me straight" leave off I say I am one person you guys have a gang of 7 or 8, which I call the Poppa Gulf gang - think about 8 against 1 I value the opinions of outsiders, Val wonders why you don't have better things to do, and says it far to negative over there - no sh*t Sherlock Why something had to do a whole "WARNING" thread about my little blog of a thread, well shakes head - doesn't that just make others want to read it more So, see this as a personal blog - misc for interesting facts and stories and info I only got accepted into my old units facebook page - a closed group, so only member can post - thank god for that and it's stirring up memories and guess what, they like my stories - cause everyone is involved one way or the other - almost all of us were drilled by Sgt. John Destry Adams - who was an actor in real life in Vancouver. They all know regular army guy and cool Scotsman, from Hamilton Scotland and the guy I had such a crush on - they find that amusing. So like I said, if ya don't like me leave me alone and I will leave you alone I believe I proved proof that I have been posting at the PG forum since Aug. 4 with no problems - only when someone decided to "out" did the problems begin who's fault is that - do you ever inside your souls, wonder why you react in such a out of control and heavy handed way towards me? Compare what I say - to the cruel taunts and nasty comment your Poppa Gulf gang say - Way off the deep end - I just shake my head - my family laugh when I tell them some of the over the top reactions - like my "michael j. fox is the anti-elvis" good grief charlie brown so take a deep breath - I won't read the negative threads then I won't feel compelled to reply in kind or is that in cruelty funny how I was accused of lying about posting here that long - but I did produced a couple of emails from Real World - plus the email where I was invlted to attend a concert by PG in the UK - couldn't make it so you guys should really wonder why you react the way you do - its almost fascination - almost - but with my flu it just makes me want to vomit all the more -
Nemesis_47 26 February 2012 at 5:45pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Thom Powell: The Locals: Bigfoot/Sasquatch Phenomenon https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/157980_324314007621033_82504782_n.jpg http://thechurchofmabus.com/ The Church of Mabus - cool
Nemesis_47 26 February 2012 at 5:47pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Jen if your mother is bi-polar does that mean you are too? Poor kid, hope you get the right meds - it should help with your depression problems
Progressive jen 26 February 2012 at 6:03pm Posts: 5472 (0 today) Status: offline
From Cyn So like I said, if ya don't like me leave me alone and I will leave you alone Please lets just do that. I've been as guilty as any of playing the game with her but really she does enjoy it. Of course this is just a suggestion and everyone is free to do as they choose.
Nemesis_47 26 February 2012 at 11:06pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
From GY G Y posted in 744 Comm Old Timers. 2:57pm Feb 26 What, When and Ware! Part 2. The unit was exercising in the Ops E area. The night ex, was to practice night driving, and ambush drills. Our resident evil. Sgt Ware, prepared an IED, using 1 tin of black powder, and 10 gallons of gasoline. The powder was wrapped in duct tape. The whole IED, was buried in a garbage bag. The convoy of vehicles was running south, in the middle arm of the dirt track, when Sgt Ware ignited it. Whoosh! An orange fireball erupted into the dark night. (This was known as the NukeSim) It was quite spectacular. After the attack, Lt Sankey and myself, started walking towards the vehicles. A strange sight appeared before us. It wasn’t until we approached closer, did we realize, it was the blackout lights of a 5/4 quad , sitting off the road. The position of the blackout lights, was tilted about 30 degrees to the left. Upon further inspection, Lt Sankey and myself, found Cpl Mueller’s rad van, half off the road. We were surprised, that the vehicle hadn’t rolled over. We discussed the solution, and Lt Sankey pulled rank. He would try to drive the vehicle out. Emptying all personnel, he tried once, to get back up onto the road. It was no good and too dangerous. He then switched tactics, and drove off the road, into the adjacent field. With a sigh of relief, Lt Sankey successfully recovered the rad van, without rolling it over. Another war story for the Mess. You remember, we were taught, not to play with sharp objects. Well, for Doug Ware, he shouldn’t play with things, that go boom! (That’s another story, that will never be told)
Pat Parker 26 February 2012 at 11:40pm Posts: 2683 (0 today) Status: offline
Cyn, You are one sick, nasty, mean, evil, motherf*cker! Jen was the absolute only person who ever even gave a rat's ass about you and she stood up for you against anyone who was treating you in an unfair way. You don't have to admit to it, but she was the only "friend" that you had here (one who knew you more than anyone else here). You are truly a gem when it comes to mental illness -- and you seem to know as much about it as anyone, so when you wrote your comment to Jen above: "Jen if your mother is bi-polar does that mean you are too? Poor kid, hope you get the right meds - it should help with your depression problems" I'm sure you are an expert on the subject, having the same exact illness (in addition to a few others, I might add). One can only hope that you do not ever cause anyone near you any harm -- that would really be sad. (Sorry, Jen, and any others who are trying to ignore this personal blog of Cyn's. I just am sad to read how one person can manage to bring so many people down here -- not the other way around, as Cyn would have it).
Progressive jen 27 February 2012 at 12:26am Posts: 5472 (0 today) Status: offline
That's ok Pat I knew what she was doing with that comment and I just choose now to be a Cyn free zone (my personal choice) I will not be goaded into responding but I do appreciate you sticking up for me
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 1:21am Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
It is amazing to me Jen that you are posting in this thread, it really doesn't have anything to do with you, but whatever floats your boat I wonder why you have to do these little digs and snipes - they mean nothing to me, and seem a little spiteful for a fully grown woman - but hey, it must give you pleasue and a tiny sense of power. So if you post in this thread - then I can freely post my opinion of you -
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 7:52am Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Come to me now Through the air you come to me Over the mountains and over the sea Come to me come to me come to me now Your astral touch makes me shiver Your blues eyes see through and makes me quiver You are a man, a god a king I swoon at your touch and voice when you sing come to me come to me and bring a simple love song that you sing A golden god my own Apollo Come to me and let me follow Wither thou goest I shall go to the ends of time and all your rock shows Your kingdom of gold my kingdom so dark light and darkness a heady mix This broken heart only you can fix Am I your enemy or am I your Queen Maybe both or something in-between Be my man, my god my king Let me touch your soul and sing Sing your praise to god above or tell Brother Satan I'm truly in love Come my King the game is over Peach, Pax, love in a field of clover light and dark dark and light peace and love let's not fight Come to me now my earthly king Teach me how to love and to sing teach me how to dance again Come to me now and be my friend come to me now this is not the end (a little rough, needs some rewriting) cm mountain sept. 25/10 nanaimo, b.c. 20-Apr-2010 4:42 pm
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 3:28pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/421918_10150590883483207_557428206_9337416_1233635030_n.jpg Raffin, Wong and Anne Ross during our lunch break, every day we'd line up for our lunch money, about 5.00 and we'd all get in an army truck and head off for the White Spot and then eat in the parking lot.
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 4:41pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Ben wrote the article about my grandfather's house with the anti-Japanese sign on the roof got this email today Ben Hamamoto commented on his post. Ben wrote: "Hi Cynthia, very sorry for the late response, I don't check my Facebook all that often! It came out in print, please email me your mailing address and I'll make sure you get a copy! Thanks!"
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 7:15pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
The Ripple Effect (2004) A novel by Paul Garrison "Aiden Page wanted only to escape. The CFO of a bank deep in debt and under investigation by the Department of Justice, Aiden saw his chance and took it, leaving behind his family, his creditors, and his persecutors by convincing them of his death. He succeeds in his deception until one night when, tortured by guilt and loneliness, he places a call to his teenage daughter, Morgan. He only utters a single word, but like a solitary ripple spreading across the water, it is enough to convince Morgan that her father is still alive. Determined to be reunited with her father and confident that she knows where he might be going, Morgan sets out on an ambitious and dangerous journey to a small Pacific island. With little money, no driver's license, and no passport, Morgan attempts to reach her destination by sailboat, prepared to fight through hostile waters, and hostile men, if it means finding her father. But Morgan isn't the only one searching for Aiden. The same people who engineered his company's collapse know that he is the only man who can uncover a conspiracy that could destroy far more than one bank or a single life. The group is unconstrained by morality, undeterred by mercy, and it will do anything in its power, including using Morgan as a pawn, if it ensures that Aiden Page remains a corpse. Now Aiden must solve the mystery behind his exile if he hopes to save not just his own life but his daughter's as well. Before his race is over, he will discover that thousands of lives may depend upon the actions of a dead man. Genre: Thriller
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 7:20pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Temple of Set BASIC BELIEFS: The Temple considers itself to be consecrated by and dedicated to Set, originally an ancient Egyptian deity. One rival cult, that of Osiris whose myths were erroneously assumed to be "pan Egyptian" by later civilizations portrayed Set as the god of evil. Setians themselves, however, did not then and do not now consider Set an evil figure, nor consider the Set Ian religion merely a refutation of conventional religion. Setians perceive the universe as a non conscious but ordered environment within which Set has, over a period of millennia, altered the genetic development of at least one form of life to create a species humanity possessing an enhanced, self conscious intelligence. The techniques and teachings of the Temple are designed to identify and develop this higher evolutionary potential in appropriate individuals. PRACTICES AND BEHAVIORAL STANDARDS: While Setians focus on their own individual capacities, they are also expected to have an appreciation of and respect for ethical behavior, to include the ideals of whatever social group or political state with whom they have chose to identify themselves. In addition to conventional means of influencing the environment about them, Setians also employ "magic," by which they mean universal forces and psychological influences generally unknown to or unrecognized by society. Setian magic is referred to as "Black Magic" to distinguish it from "White Magic" (invocation of non existent forces/influences for purposes of self delusion). The term "Black Magic" carries no connotation of evil or destructive intentions or ends. ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE: The individual initiate is the conceptual focus of the Temple, as it is a device for the interaction of individuals as such. It is not a "mass" organization. Such structures as it incorporates are merely to enhance personal opportunities. The Temple as a California corporation is the property of the international Priesthood of Set, which delegates governing authority to the Council of Nine (board of directors). The Council in turn appoints the High Priest of Set, the Executive Director, and other officers of the Temple. The Temple includes a number of Orders, each supervised by a Grand Master. These Orders may be somewhat likened to the academic departments of a university, being vehicles for concentration and cooperation in specialized fields of philosophy and magic. Setians may also interact in Pylons, which are normally under the guidance of a Priest or Priestess of Set. Pylons are normally geographically localized, but also may extend over international distances. NATURE AND ROLE OF MINISTERIAL LEADERSHIP: The Priesthood of Set is not understood to be a "leadership" or "pastoral" function in a structural or organizational sense. It is rather the direct, specific, and willful consecration of a particular individual by Set himself, formally recognized as such by the Temple of Set. Each Priest or Priestess of Set thus exercises the full religious authority of the entire Temple, subject only to the guidance of the Masters of the Temple. One member of the Priesthood is determined by the Council of Nine to serve as High Priest or High Priestess of Set. The Priesthood of Set is responsible to Set for the care of his Temple, and for reasonable guidance of and assistance to individuals who enter the Temple. The Priesthood is also responsible for dismissing from the Temple any person who cannot or will not uphold its initiatory or ethical standards. WORSHIP: There are not regularly scheduled, group "services" in the Temple. Nor would individual Setians be comfortable with the term "worship conveying as it does admiration of or devotion to a god or gods based on fear and faith. What the Setian performs instead are Workings of "Greater Black Magic" (as distinct from LBM discussed above), in which the personal consciousness is raised to direct association with that of Set. Collective GBM Workings involve any number of Setians may take place over ~great distances, or at gatherings called Conclaves. DIETARY STANDARDS: It is the individual consciousness that is sacred within each Set Ian. Therefore any substance which impairs or distorts the consciousness, such as hallucinogenic drugs or excessive alcohol, is disapproved of by the Temple. Other than this there are no dietary guidelines. FUNERAL OR BURIAL PRACTICES: The center of self consciousness of each initiated Setian the ba of the ancient Egyptians is perceived to separate from the physical body when the body ceases to be serviceable to it. The bodily remains themselves are then not considered to be sacred in any sense, although they may be cared for in any memorial way desired by the individual and his or her relatives. The ba itself does not separate from the consciousness of Set, nor from those of other Setians via GBM Workings. Therefore no ritualized mourning is necessary. Nor are non initiates of the Temple, whether officials of conventional religions or not, able or expected to perform any ceremony affecting the ba. MEDICAL TREATMENT: The Temple has no prohibitions concerning medical practices save those that would be offensive to the ethics of the individual Set Ian. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS: a. Beliefs or practices which~might conflict with a member of the group serving in the military or obeying an order of a duly appointed superior: As an institution the Temple of Set has no policies which in themselves prohibit or inhibit an individual Setian's national military service. Mention should be made, however, of the Temple's strong emphasis upon individual and social ethics. If a Set Ian in the military of any country were give an order which he or she determined to be unacceptably unethical (not merely unpleasant or dangerous), the Temple would endorse that Set Ian's decision not to comply. The Set Ian would, of course, be expected to explain precisely upon what ethical grounds such a refusal appeared necessary. This expectation than any ethical refusal be explained is essential. Merely citing affiliation with the Temple of Set would not suffice. On the other hand, the mere fact that the Temple of Set did not have a written prohibition against some specific act would not prevent the Temple from endorsing a Set Ian's refusal to perform it if that refusal were precisely and conscientiously articulated. b. Attitude towards pacifism: The Temple of Set deplores violence or harm to any living being unless necessary for personal self protection or preservation. Where an individual Setian's service in a national armed force is concerned, the Temple accepts this as a device for the security of political states which humanity has not yet outgrown. If a Set Ian accepts citizenship in a particular state, then along with that social contract come certain obligations of citizenship, military service perhaps among them. c. Recruitment of new members: The Temple of Set considers a metaphysical philosophy to be an intensely personal decision, and that the Set Ian state of awareness and being cannot be "advertised" or "merchandised" in any way. An individual either inclines to this state or does not. Therefore the Temple does not "recruit"; rather it simply makes the fact of its existence known and explains enough about itself when approached to interest persons with Set Ian potential and disinterest those without it. GENERAL SOURCE BOOKS: Annotated reading lists of published works in many categories relevant to the Temple of Set may be obtained through the Temple office. FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT: Executive Director Temple of Set P. O. Box 47037 San Francisco, CA 94147 (415) 771 9155 Electronic Mail: MCI Mail 314-3953 Telex: 6503143953 The Temple of Set does not participate in, or accept representation by the Corps of Chaplains in any branch of the armed forces of any nation. Inquiries may be addressed to the Executive Director at the Temple's office, and will be forwarded as appropriate. Black Rose Spiritual Center, Inc : Belief Systems Temple of Set ADDRESS: P. O. Box 47037 San Francisco, CA 94147 OTHER NAMES BY WHICH KNOWN: Within this religion its principles are termed "Setian," and individual affiliates are termed "Setians." As the original god Set was later caricatured as the "Satan" of Judaeo Christianity, Christians often interpret this religion as "Satanism" and its affiliates as "Satanists." Setians accept such labels only to the extent that the Christian Satan represents certain qualities of individualism and independence. Setians reject any interpretation of Satanism that glorifies or promotes evil or destructiveness. BASIC BELIEFS: The Temple considers itself to be consecrated by and dedicated to Set, originally an ancient Egyptian deity. One rival cult, that of Osiris whose myths were erroneously assumed to be "pan Egyptian" by later civilizations portrayed Set as the god of evil. Setians themselves, however, did not then and do not now consider Set an evil figure, nor consider the Set Ian religion merely a refutation of conventional religion. Setians perceive the universe as a non conscious but ordered environment within which Set has, over a period of millennia, altered the genetic development of at least one form of life to create a species humanity possessing an enhanced, self conscious intelligence. The techniques and teachings of the Temple are designed to identify and develop this higher evolutionary potential in appropriate individuals. PRACTICES AND BEHAVIORAL STANDARDS: While Setians focus on their own individual capacities, they are also expected to have an appreciation of and respect for ethical behavior, to include the ideals of whatever social group or political state with whom they have chose to identify themselves. In addition to conventional means of influencing the environment about them, Setians also employ "magic," by which they mean universal forces and psychological influences generally unknown to or unrecognized by society. Setian magic is referred to as "Black Magic" to distinguish it from "White Magic" (invocation of non existent forces/influences for purposes of self delusion). The term "Black Magic" carries no connotation of evil or destructive intentions or ends. ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE: The individual initiate is the conceptual focus of the Temple, as it is a device for the interaction of individuals as such. It is not a "mass" organization. Such structures as it incorporates are merely to enhance personal opportunities. The Temple as a California corporation is the property of the international Priesthood of Set, which delegates governing authority to the Council of Nine (board of directors). The Council in turn appoints the High Priest of Set, the Executive Director, and other officers of the Temple. The Temple includes a number of Orders, each supervised by a Grand Master. These Orders may be somewhat likened to the academic departments of a university, being vehicles for concentration and cooperation in specialized fields of philosophy and magic. Setians may also interact in Pylons, which are normally under the guidance of a Priest or Priestess of Set. Pylons are normally geographically localized, but also may extend over international distances.
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 7:24pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
How to Spot a Setian By Don Webb, High Priest, Temple of Set There is an old tradition in sorcery. You learn your tricks from a master, and then you move to another town where nobody remembers you as the looser that you were. In the new town you create a fictional past full of daring deeds and accomplishments and people wowed by your prowess flock to you for advice and spell-casting. This sort of Lesser Magic has flourished for years. It's great for quick effects in the world, but does not change the practitioner in any positive way. One of the components of this sort of sorcery is to claim to be a member of some exotic or powerful group. It's a heck of a lot more impressive to say "I am Initiate of the Great White Brotherhood" than "I occasionally get lucky with my Tarot readings." lol Smarter con men choose groups that don't really exist, or no longer exist in the world. Dumber people choose groups that do exist. Perhaps you know someone that has claimed to speak a language for years that when finally confronted with an actual speaker at a party then looks like a fool . . . The Temple of Set has apparently come of age since we now have the problem of poseurs that claim to be our members. From the perspective of our organizational influence in the world this is a good (if annoying sign). Some people claim to be Setians because they want to impress others, some claim to be Setians because they think they can do some organizational harm to us, some make the claim because they're bored with pretending to persons of the opposite gender in chat rooms. Temple of Set Home Page Real Setians generally don't discuss their affiliation. If they do it is usually without titles involved, unless they are acting as a member of our Priesthood and having to make an official statement. Real Setians simply do not draw their power from their title. If you see someone hammering away on some e-list about how great they are because they are in our Temple, you can pretty much bet that they are not in our Temple. Setians perceive their titles as a form of giving worth to the Prince of Darkness. If they are an Adept, a Priest or a Magistra - they see these titles as feeding the spirit of the Temple. It's a voluntary exchange - "I will act with nobility and such wisdom as I have now to strengthen the things that opened my eyes." This magical attitude makes each speech-act of the Setian a furthering in the world of the Will of the Prince of Darkness. Setians take their speech seriously. If you see someone using foul language, stupid one-line retorts, or claiming to give away inside secrets of the Temple, you are safe in assuming that this isn't a Temple member. What you may also assume is that these people are unconsciously serving our cause as well - simply by pointing out the excellence of our members by letting people figure out that they are not members. Such service is of course a much lower degree of quality than that of the conscious person fighting alongside the Prince of Darkness. Such poseurs will come and go, draining little of our resources and spreading our fame (albeit by negative means). Their actions will ensnare them to us making them not a Lord of the Left Hand Path, but a serf thereof. As you encounter these people just compare what they say and how they say it with our public documents and writings and ask yourself if their sayings are congruent. Learning to spot the real McCoy is an important step in anyone's Initiation - and thus these would-bes are an aid to you as well as to us. Think about what you read, compare it to what you know and act accordingly. Xeper. Don Webb V° High Priest
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 7:26pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
Egyptian Alien Gods Returning Egyptian Alien Gods Returning is a book showing first that Egyptian Gods were aliens, and that they are returning to Earth soon. The questions of Who, Where, When, and Why are answered in this book, with references to other books by the author, Steve Canada. Scholars of Anunnaki (Nefilim) history have found they were, among other gods throughout history, the Gods of Egypt. Anunnaki ("From Heaven Those Who Came Down to Earth") are from Nibiru, 10th planet of the solar system with an orbital time of about 3600 years. The two NASA 1987 press releases announcing detection of such a massive solar system planet far from Pluto with a very long orbital time are reproduced in all of the author's books. A Returning example is the Anunnaki named Inanna (originally Irnini, and later Ishtar), who was the Sumerians' Goddess of Grain. Since she has been repeatedly identified in crop circles using the author's original decipherment method, why is there is any question of who are responsible for the crop circles? That issue should have ended when the author announced and published his findings in 1991. Later she was Isis in Egypt. While Asta was her Egyptian name, the Greeks changed it to Isis, the name we popularly know her as today. Insofar as the Anunnaki are not of this Earth, they are by definition 'aliens' - although they first came to Earth (Eridu - 'Home in the Faraway') about 400,000 years ago in search for gold to take back to Nibiru (the biblical 'Olam') to save their planet's atmosphere and homeworld from ecological disaster. Needing more goldmine workers (this time slaves), they created humans; see Genesis: "The Elohim said 'Let us make the Adam in our image'." For more of who is returning, see author's website www.BibleCodeCropCircleGods.com. Inanna, and all eleven other Anunnaki on the Ruling Council listed in ancient Sumeria (today's Iraq; see website below about why Iraq needs to be transformed and prepared for the Anunnaki return to there, e.g., to Babylon, Uruk, Ur, Eridu) have been identified in the crop circles of England since at least July 1990. See author's 30 books explaining how to decode crop circles at his website www.cropcirclebooks.com. Crop circles can be deciphered using the author's original method to identify the Anunnaki as a group and by individual name; also their planet Nibiru (several ancient Sumerian symbols for it are used in crop circles). Inanna is depicted on July 11, 1990 as Descending and armed with Marduk's "Lightning Weapon." See Descend tab at left for labeled graphic of the July 11, 1990 crop formation at Alton Barnes, Wiltshire, England. ['England', from the German, means 'Angel Land'; engel means 'angel', and land means 'land'; incorporating the dropped el, 'Lord' in Hebrew, we see 'England' means 'Land of the Lord's Angel'] Another ancient Anunnaki weapon, "Bull of Heaven," was depicted in crop circles in 1994 and in 2004. See author's website www.CropCircleWarnings.com. How might the Pentagon respond to such reminders of weapons used in the ancient past and warnings of their possible future use? See author's website www.WhyAttackIraqTheAlienAnswer.com which explains Who is returning Where and When. Either preparations are being made in Babylon and Uruk, even in Eridu, for ceremonial welcoming receptions of the returning Anunnaki in about March 2010, or resistance to such an arrival is being planned. See also: www.AliensInIraq2010.com. Are they also returning to Cairo, to Giza? If so, when? Also in March 2010? Since 'Cairo' means Mars in Old Arabic, a deeper connection with Egypt can be explored in the author's book featured at www.MartianGodsTorahCodeEvidence.com. On that site be sure to read the text of the Cairo tab, for an appreciation of healing music, the love that lives all things, and how we can reconcile to our species' Fate and welcome our Destiny. Why are they returning? Few will like the answer - see author's book and websites detailing this process, at www.AlienEndOfDays.com and www.AlienNewWorldOrder.com. Documented encoding in the Torah (first five books of the Bible, the Books of Moses) of their Returning, all their names, and Where and When are presented in this Egyptian Gods book. For other crop circle and Bible Code connections, see author's www.BibleCropCircleCodes.com. Anunnaki names are encoded in the Torah close to the encoded names of all gods of all religions throughout all of history. See author's website www.AliensInWorldReligions.com for his nine volume book series. Is it any wonder then that they would also be encoded close to the encoded names of Egyptian Gods? Egyptian Gods "sky-singing" duets have been detected using star elevation angles measured from Stonehenge, and from the Mars Face, on crop circle creation dates, compared to musical notes' frequencies; a 100% match is found. See Singing tab at left. The connection between the Vatican and the Egyptian Sun God RA is explored in the author's book offered at Vatican tab to left.
Nemesis_47 27 February 2012 at 10:44pm Posts: 989 (0 today) Status: offline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_in_the_jar Whiskey in the Jar "Whiskey in the Jar" is a famous Irish traditional song, set in the southern mountains of Ireland, with specific mention of counties Cork and Kerry, as well as Fenit, a village in county Kerry. It is about a Rapparee (Highwayman), who is betrayed by his wife or lover, and is one of the most widely performed traditional Irish songs. It has been recorded by numerous professional artists since the 1950s. The song first gained wide exposure when the Irish folk band The Dubliners performed it internationally as a signature song, and recorded it on three albums in the 1960s. Building on their success, the Irish rock band Thin Lizzy hit the Irish and British pop charts with the song in the early 1970s. The American metal band Metallica brought it to a wider rock audience in 1998 by playing a version very similar to that of Thin Lizzy's with a heavier sound, and won a Grammy for the song in 2000 for Best Hard Rock Performance. The Dubliners version, which is often sung in Irish traditional music sessions around the world, begins: As I was goin' over the far famed Kerry mountains, I met with Captain Farrell, and his money he was counting. I first produced me pistol and I then produced me rapier, Saying: "Stand and deliver, for you are a bold deceiver!". Musha rin du-rum do du-rum da, Whack for my daddy-o, Whack for my daddy-o, There's whiskey in the jar.[2] History The song's exact origins are unknown. A number of its lines and the general plot resemble those of a contemporary broadside ballad "Patrick Fleming" (also called "Patrick Flemmen he was a Valiant Soldier") about an Irish highwayman executed in 1650.[3][4] In the book The Folk Songs of North America, folk music historian Alan Lomax suggests that the song originated in the 17th century, and (based on plot similarities) that John Gay's 1728 The Beggar's Opera was inspired by Gay hearing an Irish ballad-monger singing "Whiskey in the Jar". In regard to the history of the song, Lomax states, "The folk of seventeenth century Britain liked and admired their local highwaymen; and in Ireland (or Scotland) where the gentlemen of the roads robbed English landlords, they were regarded as national patriots. Such feelings inspired this rollicking ballad."[5] "Whiskey in the Jar" is the tale of a highwayman or footpad who, after robbing a military or government official, is betrayed by a woman; whether she is his wife or sweetheart is not made clear. Various versions of the song take place in Kerry, Kilmoganny, Cork, Sligo Town, and other locales throughout Ireland. It is also sometimes placed in the American South, in various places among the Ozarks or Appalachians, possibly due to Irish settlement in these places. Names in the song change, and the official can be a Captain or a Colonel, called Farrell or Pepper among other names. The protagonist's wife or lover is sometimes called Molly, Sportin' Jenny, or Ginny among various other names. If anyone can aid me tis my brother in the army If I can find his station in Cork or in Killarney And if he'd go with me we'd go rovin' in Killkenney and I know he'd treat me better than me darlin' sportin' Jenny Still working on the screeplay for Whiskey in the Jar - oh

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