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And yes Moonie did ask if you were Ms. Mountain Your reply: I have no idea what you are talking about Moonstorm Well shows how far you can be trusted.

*reposted - I want to make sure you read this Cyn. I can only control my actions. I have never told anyone the private stuff you have said to me especially the "astral" stuff as I don't want to cause more problems for you Cyn. I really dislike this: and she said things to me regarding Peter Gabriel and his wife that I did not spread around, so people in glass houses should not throw stones - it was amazing to me how I could say something, and she'd get it wrong in the way she read it - Just like how you tried to "out" me regarding Rraven getting banned, you think you are being sly but I see right through you, only hinting that I may have said something "bad" about PG (and it wasn't) incredibly childish and despicable. If anyone gives a Fu*k - since Cyn is so into the paranormal, I told her something that I had a feeling about (1 thing) and immediately regretted it. She was like a dog with a bone. I am not going to say what that thing was because it's unfounded and can be construed as gossip. Has anyone on the PG fansite ever at least once wondered about something in his personal life -? My bet is yes. Cyn I told you we could co-exist and I plan to try to do just that but if you continue to drag my name into things and try to stir shit up just know that I have not shared any of the private stuff you said to me but I've saved ALL of the emails and I can be pushed into sharing. That is not a veiled threat it is a promise. Pat Nice try but she will never accept any responsibility for her part in anything. As I said I can only control what I do.

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Wow, I never realized that you didn't like being called by your real name -- I apologize to you for that, but I seriously cannot keep up with nicknames (for anyone here, especially you). So, I'm definitely guilty of calling you Cyn because I was being polite (or at least I thought I was), so sorry about that. All that you have written was in response to my giving you an explanation as to how I feel about forgive and forget -- and I was acknowledging some of what you said because it seemed that you were trying to make an attempt at acknowledging your part in this -- it was ever so slight, but I really thought for a moment that you were acknowledging that you are the other half of the problem -- not the whole problem, perhaps not the instigator, but certainly a very active participant. Several years ago now, you ran into problems here with some lunies. I was not involved because I was not here during those days. When I finally returned here, I saw that there was this war of words going on between you and some others -- many of whom I have known for a really long time here on the forums. Although I didn't get involved (because I truly could never have picked up in the middle of that one -- it was during the time when this place was so very active and very, very busy with topics, discussions, arguments, what have you), so I didn't get involved and didn't have a single clue from anyone here what had been going on. I do think that some lunatics misunderstood that as my taking your side and I was slighted for that by a few. To this very day, it changed the way I feel about getting involved in anyone's personal war of words here. It is only if/when I happen to have my name mentioned or something is directed toward me that I will speak up -- that, and if I see someone saying something that is utterly wrong and/or untrue. During that first encounter (there might have been others before that, but for me it was my first encounter with such heated discussions, curses, angry, mean, evil words), I was able to join in discussions, remain out of the crazy discussions and just try to carry on. However, it all changed so very quickly for me -- during a conversation in the geography thread and I mistakenly said something about Canada not being as large as the USA. Whew!!!!! Well, Holy Macaroni Sister Mary Margaret Tony!!! I was harshly criticized by you -- Nemesis -- and you never let me live it down during that time; there was no turning back then and you turned on me like a vicious dog. I bailed out and stopped responding to you and carried on. Many people here these days wouldn't even know about the other times and that's cool -- it shows how we can and do move forward from trivial, trite, not-so-bright (because I do not use the word "stupid" -- no one in my family is ever allowed to call anyone "stupid" -- it's one of the rudest words we can use (with "shut up" being the other -- just my opinion here). When you appeared here again last year, you were polite and began having exchanges with me. I was open to it -- again, my philosophy is to forgive and forget -- as much as possible, and most certainly with something so trivial as a forum in a virtual world. The water was under the bridge and we began having discussions along with everyone else. Well, something happened on the way to paradise and once again, the past summer brought about some really, heavy-duty crazy times here (the ones to which you refer now). I did all I could to stay out of it again and for the longest time, again, you didn't really seem to lash out on me, but when you did, it just never stopped -- from your end. All I know is that I ain't up for a 3rd time and this time is no different than the other times. Throughout all of the times, there have been many things said by many lunies -- not only you and not only directed towards you. You might be right in saying that you didn't "start it" -- but the bottom line is this: everyone wants to finish it and even if you don't want to forgive and forget, then what exactly do you want??? Really, what exactly do you want to read here?? Do you want an apology from everyone of "those" people (only you know who exactly "those" people are). If so, I would have to tell you that in order to get an apology, you will need to give one, as well. In order to end it all and just carry on and write whatever you feel like, you will need to stop throwing in your comments which keeps it stirred up. Nemesis -- Today's exchange had started out on a good note, I thought. You don't have to agree with what I said (earlier about forgive and forget), but neither did you need to give your version of everything that has happened over the past few weeks -- we've all been here right along with you N. -- we've all been involved in your exchanges -- good or bad. We KNOW what has happened over the past few weeks and all of us really just want it to end (except for you perhaps, since you admit that you cannot forgive and forget). Jen -- I agree with you -- I have tried many times over and I do realize that it's useless. All I do know is that here on a public forum, it cannot ever be said that I didn't try. No denying that one -- it's all here for anyone to read. Sadly enough, when this stuff happens, there is not only one person -- or even two-- who suffer. I've been dissed by several lunatics for the way that I speak up for myself (and even for them), but no matter what, I return here to enjoy the lunies who I have come to know. I'm off now to get ready for my weekend of work and then travel. Looking forward to the trip.

It's okay with my first name - just didn't like my last name out there So how well do you know the fellas from The Hooters? just found out that I have totally embarrassed myself at Eric Bazilian's Facebook page, when I find someone new in music I throw myself in all the way, checking out all the songs, reading up on him. He has written so many songs for other people it's amazing, he even wrote for a cool goth like singer from Vancouver, Biff Naked. So at Facebook I'm posting all the EB songs I can find - then I check his Facebook page, and every song of his I posted is now posted at his Facebook page - blush - I deleted some of them, but too chicken to look at his Facebook to see how many are still there - with my name, for all to see, ack! His manager Steve Mountain is a funny guy and has given me some advice about the music business and songwriting - the Hooters have a new cb coming out in a few weeks, really looking forward to that. Who knew that Philadelphia could produce such a cool guy like Eric - of course now that my new crush has been exposed to all, including himself - well sigh, what's done is done -

Okay, I'll try to remember to use nicknames only, but that is actually one of the reasons I never bothered with nicknames -- I don't know who anyone "really" is and it's difficult to keep nicknames v. real names straight for me. I'm one of those people who has a really difficult time remembering names -- I'm much better at remembering faces, but names always seem to escape me and it's a bit embarassing at times. So, when nicknames are thrown in the mix, well, I can't keep who is who straight at all. As for the Hooters -- well, I know them through various ways and circumstances -- the first being that my brother and his band -- Highgate -- played the Philly clubs, coffee houses before the Hooters hit the streets of Philly, but many of the artists of that time all knew each other in one way or another. So, my very first connection was my brother's best friend and writing partner, Tony -- whose sister, Liz was connected with the Hooters. I've followed the Hooters for many years and still like their music. I don't think they were taken seriously here in this country, but I'm glad to know they carried on anyway. Currently, my very good friend works with Steve Mountain directly -- and subsequently works with the Hooters, individually and as a group. As for your comment, "Who knew that Philadelphia could produce such a cool guy . . . " -- perhaps you're not at all familiar with Philadelphia itself. Philadelphia is actually a very big town for lots of well-known musicians and Philly has always been a top city to play -- the people in Philly are very good music critics, so if an artist can make it there, they have a good chance of making it elsewhere (sorta like Frank Sinatra's song, "New York" -- if I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere). As for Eric Bazilian's facebook page -- he might not even be the person maintaining the page, but if he is, he'll see that you're into his songs. And yes, you're correct -- he's a very gifted writer (along with Rob Hyman). I hope their cd does well -- it'll be nice to hear something new from them.

I was just teasing about Philly - a very long time ago my grandfather owned a pool hall in Philadelphia I can't get over how many songs EB has written for other people, and surprised he wrote One of Us, I love that song - he is 12 days older than me but looks 10 years younger - rock and roll must keep you young. He reminds me of Viggo Mortensen, American but very worldly and well travelled. I guess I'm on his friend's list not sure how that happened - I did a Cartouche Card reading for Steve - he said "another first, a long distant card reading" so I screwed up the nerve and did a Cartouche reading for Eric - sent to Steve. No feedback yet, maybe that's a good thing. I sent a couple of lyrics to Steve, and he said that one of them was promising - I asked him "how do you write a Hooters song?" and he said "When I find out I'll let you know" lol He's a good guy

Progressive jen Yesterday at 7:44pm Posts: 4812 (7 today) Status: offline And yes Moonie did ask if you were Ms. Mountain Your reply: I have no idea what you are talking about Moonstorm Well shows how far you can be trusted. Give it a break Jen - how the hell does my reply show I can't be trusted - why should I have to answer a question like that - in the context of that thread, her question made no sense You just want to nitpick to death -- for some reason you all can post what ever the hell you like, and most of it lies, exaggeration and false speculation but I have to post that literal truth - or the truth as you believe - not the truth that is the reality of the situation. I know that I could not trust you, and I called you friend - you showed exactly what kind of two faced back stabbing friend you can be, how's that for the literal truth - give it a rest Jen, you are like a skipped record, going on and on and on you can't win this one, so let it go

Just heard this great song tonight for the first time: Somebody That I Used To Know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY "Somebody That I Used To Know" (feat. Kimbra) [Gotye:] Now and then I think of when we were together Like when you said you felt so happy you could die Told myself that you were right for me But felt so lonely in your company But that was love and it's an ache I still remember You can get addicted to a certain kind of sadness Like resignation to the end, always the end So when we found that we could not make sense Well you said that we would still be friends But I'll admit that I was glad it was over But you didn't have to cut me off Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing And I don't even need your love But you treat me like a stranger and it feels so rough No you didn't have to stoop so low Have your friends collect your records and then change your number I guess that I don't need that though Now you're just somebody that I used to know Now you're just somebody that I used to know Now you're just somebody that I used to know [Kimbra:] Now and then I think of all the times you screwed me over But had me believing it was always something that I'd done But I don't wanna live that way Reading into every word you say You said that you could let it go And I wouldn't catch you hung up on somebody that you used to know [Gotye:] But you didn't have to cut me off Make out like it never happened and that we were nothing And I don't even need your love But you treat me like a stranger and it feels so rough And you didn't have to stoop so low Have your friends collect your records and then change your number I guess that I don't need that though Now you're just somebody that I used to know [x2] Somebody (I used to know) Somebody (Now you're just somebody that I used to know) (I used to know) (That I used to know) (I used to know) Somebody

Cyn The worst mistake I eve made was to defend you and befriend you. I did not realize that answering YOUR accusations was "nit-picking" I'll let it go if you stop. Otherwise everything that happens you will have brought on yourself.

Just gotta get the last word in - time to let it go - release all that anger to the universe - so we don't like each other - agree to disagree or all that bile will eat you up inside - let it go, I'm not your enemy anymore just had to get crap off my chest and rant a little - as everyone else has been free to do - it's out of my system and I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings - but my feelings were hurt to let it go and be at peace

If you truly have gotten everything off your chest and are ready to let it go then so am I. Good luck to you then.

Best of luck to you too

I had a weird experience at King George Station in Surrey, waiting for Uncle Bill to pick us up - wrote this about that King George Station Saw you standing at King George Station Reminded me of another time, another place Concentration, determination, liquidation The race to win at any cost To win the war, it's you I lost Saw you standing aloof and alone at King George Station The Sky Train was plain out of luck Registration at the Station Sanity and soul on the edge of destruction Penetration, concentration don't miss a step don't cut your hand Happy to see you about to reach land with your snaky rock band Saw you standing alone by the sea Swyalana is your Shangrila For all the world to see The shining moon reflected in shining eyes It seems we stood this way before waiting for the sunrise Working on a mystery with the Captain and his crew - didn't we all hang before in another war? Here we go again he said Guilt without sin - sin without pain emotional over ride cosmic sensation waiting for that karmic train boarding the train onward and upward meeting old friends at King George Station cmm - Vancouver Island March 1996

rena/rraven is on her usual delusional rant again (at her blog) first picking on PG - Or so he claims. I have a really hard time believing that he could be that much of an idiot than to believe in the so-called moon effect (such as there are more dog bites or murders during the full moon). Peter asked if any scientists could send him any information, but really, he should've just searched online. Or he could've hired one of his staff to do it. http://www.theperfectblogtitle.blogspot.com/ I believe she is referring to me - since she spent a lot of time and effort branding me as her "cyber bully" a year ago - it seems if she keeps telling the same lie over and over, even she starts to believe it. I'm afraid she's just not that important to me for me to bother with - I don't think she has any kind of "cyber stalker" but it makes her feel important to have one - I think she has emotional and mental health problems - everything is someone else's fault, but not hers - I still wonder how you can inflict $10,000 in computer damagne, when a good computer costs half that amount. But, nothing I can do - let her rant and rave. I just don't like it when she picks on Peter - and doesn't have the guts to do so at his forum. http://reasonsnottocommitsuicide.wordpress.com/ But I left him in 2004. And in 2010, after managing to start a home business and get my life back together, I picked up a cyberbully, or virtual abuser. First I thought this person was going to be a great new friend and s/he turned out to be yet another in the series of psychopaths in my life. The cyberbully practically destroyed my home business and badly frightened my family. And s/he got away with it — scott free So, rena/rraven was my bully and my cyberbully spreading lies in their written articles, smart enough not to name me by name - the girl is completely delusional - I'm not even famous but I've attracted my very own cyber stalker - and boy does she love to play the victim when called out for her behavour. She's a dangerous and unstable woman, and I pity anyone who believes her lies.

Uma of the Moona The goddess of the moon comes down to play with the hearts of men and decided to stay She is filled with love for her man - and see ahead his master plan She laughs with joy and joins his special club at their special hub She giggles with glee this modest goddess as she enters the full moon club Little do they know, she's one of them now Playing their games - singing the songs of rights and loves not hate and wrongs The moon goddess gives her blessing no confessing - she's one of them now undercover of the night - hiding out of sight The moonlight shining through her eyes some sense the power of the lady others seem threatened, angry and fear she works hard to be like they are Staying near but hiding in the dark The Moon is never that far never that far from Venus and Mars She's like they are a true fan a fan of the man who sings to her heart it's a start - the moon goddess smiles all the while humming his little tunes she looks forward to the month of June when she sees her hero and she gives up the moon and gives up her heart to become human not god, well that's a start that's a start cmm 3/27/11

I will probably regret asking this: Cyn you said: I'm afraid she's just not that important to me for me to bother with - I don't think she has any kind of "cyber stalker" but it makes her feel important to have one - If she is not important for you to bother with then why in the hell are you checking her blogs? I'm sorry but I do not believe you when you say you want peace, you are looking for things to get angry about and then you are posting paragraphs about a person you supposedly care nothing about. I'm sure you will say that you have a right to defend yourself but if you never went to her blog in the first place you wouldn't even know what she had written. You obviously care very much or you aren't getting into it with me so you need someone else to fight with. I'm not commenting on what Rraven wrote on her blog, I'm commenting on the fact that you care so little about her you have to see if she's writing about you. Think about it.

Because I like to keep track of a person who spreads lies about me - I don't know why she's so obsessed and why she keeps up with this delusion - and that was the first time I checked her blog in over 2 weeks Don't know why she started with the h/she thang - I think she's dangerous - I bet if she was spreading lies about you everywhere she posted you'd keep an eye on her too. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer - I don't like that she called Peter an idiot - she's a bit of a souless wonder pod, that doesn't believe in anything spiritual, and she doesn't want anyone else to believe there's a spiritual world out there. Jen, you seem enjoy criticizing me every chance you get - did I ever do anything right by you? Like send you a package of real world notes and cd's, guess that means nothing - and before you jump to the wrong conclusions, no I don't want them back. I'm not all evil ya know, but you want to think to worst of me, and I can do nothing right. Maybe you are right - I am an evil bitch, I dabble in the blackest of black magick - and I don't suffer fools gladly - and I've reached a point where I don't give a damn anymore - so don't worry be happy

Bazilian & Wester - Bigger than the Bossa Nova Eric Bazilian from the Hooters (rock band, USA) and Mats Wester from Nordman (folk-pop band, Sweden). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy6T5a1y4aE The majority of the video was shot using Mats' and Eric's iPhones in their respective studios as well as the landscape

I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of your statement, and wondering why you get so upset when Bob brings something back from the Wolf's Den but it's ok for you to bring back stuff from Rravens blog- do you see the hypocrisy in that? Did I call you an "evil bitch"? It must be in invisible ink because I certainly don't see that written anywhere. And to anyone else reading this thread I would point out: Threat: Maybe you are right - I am an evil bitch, I dabble in the blackest of black magick - and I don't suffer fools gladly - and I've reached a point where I don't give a damn anymore - Then to pretend she did not intend a threat: so don't worry be happy Well I have 2 things to say to that. 1 - this is so transparent, do you really believe that no one will see what I'm seeing? 2 - uga buga, witchypoo all you want. I don't believe in that.