Little rainbow5 November 2010 at 3:00pmPosts: 3970 (0 today)Status: offline
Youssou Ndour shocked by the bad case against Islam: "Shame!"
Youssou Ndour shocked by the bad case against Islam: "Shame!"
If there are any Senegalese musician who can not digest the wrong case against Islam by Western media that it is "a religion of violence" it is Youssou Ndour. Clearly exasperated by the label affixed to the Muslim religion, it did not ask to swap his microphone against a lawyer's robe to impose its truths to the enemies of Islam.
Youssou Ndour loses his voice. Outraged by the bad case against Islam, the famous Senegalese singer raised his voice to protest against this unfortunate practice of Western media. "Personally, I think that Islam is the opposite of what they think. Islam is a religion of tolerance, a religion of peace. But as in all religions there are people who are a little extreme, "said The Senegalese artist in the columns of a specialized site Dutch.
Youssou Ndour is even more confident in his vision, the people trying to tarnish the image of Islam to assimilate to a religion "violent," do for propaganda purposes. "For me, the multitude of ethnicities, languages, religions is not an obstacle! It is a treasure. Unfortunately people are increasingly trying to make a barrier. They use their message, their speech to convince people that this is a problem. I think it's a shame. There are people who use ridiculous posts to gain power and to convince more people. " A scandal in the author of "Seven Seconds" that indexes the Western media. "It's a shame. The media report a lot about these extremists as if they were important. But the majority of Muslims are tolerant and peaceful. I think the media played a very important role. They still show a very hard side of the fundamentalists. It exists in other religions too. But they talk a lot about Muslim fundamentalists. I do not agree. "
This is because religion is very important to the boss of the Super Star that it is the duty of wearing her dress as a lawyer under the circumstances to defend it tooth and nail. "Religion is everything to me. She follows me in everything I do. I think it is important always to defend my religion and use my music and my reputation to promote the true face of our religion, which is sometimes distorted by the people here, "said the Senegalese singer who was there ' A few days in the Netherlands, a country which he said the greater good. "When I was very young, we spoke of Europe as an El Dorado. There was something magical, a continent of success. I remember I have always spoken of Amsterdam. I wanted to go to Amsterdam, one day, without actually knowing the country well. The Netherlands has a link with my music. The first time that the English musician Peter Gabriel has heard my voice was on a Dutch radio. Oh! What is that voice?, "He said."
the faces of religions always depends on the people who create it. the same is to poltical systems. to everything. if people are tolerant, they create their religion in a tolerant way.
but the question is: how is it possible to misuse a
religion and change it into something complete different?
is it only coming from the media?
what is about the hateful reaction of islamic MEN in the streets of orient against caricatures of their relgious leaders?
Little rainbow6 November 2010 at 4:17pmPosts: 3970 (0 today)Status: offline
how is it possible to misuse a religion and change it into something complete different?
Easy, take the Catholic religion and think of the Inquisition, you've got the answer. :-]
About the caricatures, they did react to the drawing of their god, which is supposed to stay unshown. That why in some way the islamic art is so rich, as a consequence.
Extremism, can be read as an answer against a lack of identity. Each time you're doing something in that direction and weakening other's identity, it is exactly as if you were breathing on the fire. And if the right of expression can't be denied, those exercising it should have known the fact.
Something learnt from youth : my freedom ends where begins the other's one.
it's a simple rule of conviviality and social behaviour. but in order to exercise it you have first to know the other.
And for the media, easier to show a car burning in a surbub than the energy spent there by good willingnesses to make life easier and richer. and there's plenty of indeed.
This world seems to need fear and especially a group to fear and is fed by it.
but you're perfectly entitled to refuse it and begin to think otherwise.
This particular religion is the youngest one of the "three religions of the book". They are strictly flowing the ones from the other,and that's a pity to see around as much incomprehension and caricatural thinking.
And I'm not a follower of any of them, but I just noticed that they have imprinted our culture.
rejecting them would be as eradicate a part of it. Better have a look on them,and the interesting part of what they do bring along.
I'm much interested in the acts of those trusting in one of them around me, most of the time generous people, strenghtened by it, rather than the contrary.
respect them for me means to respect as well what they are trusting in, even if I'm not a trustee. cause I never forget that I'm first in front of human beings.
All of this would be pure rethoric if those days women, men, children, weren't paying the price of intolerance by lacking of help when they need it.
I think that Youssou'N Dour's reaction comes from that precise point.
All occuring around the lack of response to the material and moral situation in which are right now the flood's victims is sending us back a simple question: what are we aimed to help, ideas or human beings ?
The total silence in the media whith which was followed the second visit of the Elders in Gaza, exactly the same. Half of the population are youngsters.
evoulini6 November 2010 at 9:48pmPosts: 1750 (0 today)Status: offline
Excuse me, but what is Youssou 'N Dour trying to say? That Islam isn't violent or misogynistic? And especially towards women and even children? I didn't expect any media attack to this relegion to be sure what it is all about. Men don't even count women for human beings. They act like women are their property, and even worse, cause one cares for their property. The worst thing is that there are incredibly many prooves about that, and so many bad incidents we will never know about.
It's people who create and follow a religion, that's what I'm trying to say. So the religion reflects what people want from it.
This, of course is my humble opinion.
Cimber7 November 2010 at 10:33amPosts: 2574 (0 today)Status: offline
the definition of religion should be like this:
to find peace in yourself, to find peace in God, to act and behave in a human and tolerant way to other people, animals and mother nature.
this all sounds too idealistic - but it should be the main purpose in all those 3 religions, that relate themselves to the same God actually.
What I always noticed in the past is: discussions about religion always lead to disharmony - different views, different opinions, everybody feels right, everyone blames the other.
in my opinion and experience, all people in the world are the same. we are sitting in the same boat, getting closer and closer to each other by the problems caused by ourselves. this condition could contribute to a new conciousness of unity. it could be the worlds new religion without prayers and gods but with tolerant people, acting with self- responsibility and maturity, learning from experiences.such has been happening in nature for billions of years.
for me, the word god,is an abstractum for something touchable:
Little rainbow7 November 2010 at 9:16pmPosts: 3970 (0 today)Status: offline
DolceVita7 November 2010 at 10:33pmPosts: 2330 (0 today)Status: offline
Wave Project,you remind me a quote of Oscar Wilde:
"Faith is the most complex I know. It is assumed that we all believe the same thing in different ways. It 's like if we ate the same dish with spoons in various colors"
I agree Cimber,i add i think it's fanaticism that produces hate,especially when someone want to "convert" others to something that is believed to be "superior".
Every religion who wanted this,they produced only a lot of hatred. (like Inquisition of Catholic ,or fanticism of Islam),that's madness.
To believe in God should be living in peace and in freedom with ourselves and each other,mah. . . human race is strange!!
Zenrider9 November 2010 at 3:32amPosts: 3560 (0 today)Status: offline
It is fortunate for us that most of those that follow the Christian religion do not follow the Bible literally (I'd have been stoned to death a long time ago, or is that old testament?), perhaps the Muslims need to progress the same? That is not to take such things literally. (I am not aware of any whole Christian countries holding inquisitions at this time or stonings for that matter. OK, not sure there are any countries that allow no other religion then Christianity?)
There is a lot of violence in both the Bible and Koran.
The difference currently of how these religions are followed is when a Muslim burns a Bible, I don't hear people calling to KILL Muslims/bomb them. However when some itty bitty church in Florida, so far removed from being a national leader of any sort (it was a congregation of what? 20?), threatens to burn Korans, Muslims across the world threaten bombings and other terrorist acts. That's a heart for an eye. Eye for an eye would be more, if you burn our book, we'll burn yours. That is not what they did, they threatened worldwide violence instead, for a book that can be easily replaced. It's just paper and ink folks, that's all, big difference from flesh and blood and paper. OK, recycling would be more earth friendly then burning.
Frankly, I believe there is something more then this, but it is also my belief that man created religion, not the other way around.
Progressive jen9 November 2010 at 8:45amPosts: 5474 (0 today)Status: offline
There are billions of Muslims and for the most part they are very peaceful and just trying to live their lives like everyone else.
Then there are the fanatics who need to realize this is the 21st century not the 12th.
Christian zealots make me sick as well.
It seems to me that there are hardliners in every religion but the Muslim ones seem to have no problem blowing up themselves and taking innocent people with them.
I'm with John Lennon: Imagine there's no heaven.
Imagine all the people, living for today.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
I hope some day you join us, and the world will live as one.
Justin Bean9 November 2010 at 12:26pmPosts: 7 (0 today)Status: offline
I would like to paint all religions with the same brush. Most of the Christian world experienced a reformation and the age of enlightenment. Unfortunately these ideals never made it to a large part of the world.
Human rights in these places are of concern. I can't see any factor that is uniquely Muslim that is responsible for this chasm. Plenty of non-muslim places have poor human rights records.
Maybe we can move toward rejecting these artificial lines that divide us and see religious distinctions as they really are, human inventions originally intended as a method of control.