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Okay friends, please chime in and tell me your input and recommendation regarding the Growing Up tour. I'd really like to hear your thoughts. There's: GUL, Still/Unwrapped, and Family Portrait. I realize, of course, they're all PG and all great.

Hello Elliotte, I'd buy GUL first, it has the big stage sets with effects, Zorb ball, PG and Mel dangling upside down and brilliant performances by tutti! Lots of split screen and you get to see the techie guys. Mostly from Milan, Italy where the audience was so receptive and enthusiastic.Also has a fair bit of intro stuff from PG including some smattering of italian - 'piccolo barque'. Very well lit/produced with lots of close-up work too. I'd buy it for 'Here Comes the Flood' alone or 'Signal to Noise' or 'Sky Blue'(to die for) or 'Digging in the Dirt' or 'Darkness' and so on! Still/U has some of same songs with smaller venues, quite another atmosphere. Seems more intimate but also a bit eerie in places. Lot of misty/dark shots. Also it has the stunning 'White Ashes' and 'Tower That ate People' (whoah) as well as an extra 'No Self Control' from POV (198 which is gorgeous. Some great footage of GWF and PG and Mel on those wheelie things, spooky. I love both for their different qualities. There's some interesting editing of different venues stitched together for single songs on Still/U but I don't think it affects it adversely, imo makes it quite lively and strange in places. Can't tell you much about Family Portrait as I haven't got it yet, but it is about how PG, family(his wife and son included) and band manage a long tour together. Perhaps you could call it 'Up(s) and Downs'! It has been recommended to me by other Lunatics as v interesting for a PG fan. There are various clips on the web, notably the one where Melanie is telling PG that she has been told her singing is crap. Also the clips of PG at a film festival playing solo. That is fantastic btw if you haven't seen it. Have you got Secret World Live, which is a must? Wonderful, wonderful stuff with Paula Cole, Manu, Jean-Claude, Papa Wembe, Shankar and possibly others I can't just recall at this hour. Worth it for 'Washing of Water' alone. PG Play the Videos is also worth having because it includes most of the single videos such as Sledgehammer, Steam etc. About x23 videos I think. Amazing. The only problem with them is when to switch them off. Oooh- I might even watch one of them tomorrow seeing as it's Saturday. There is a thread somewhere that resurfaces periodically petitioning Peter to re-issue POV(Points of View Tour 198. Many of us sign it each time, I know I do. Again most Lunies would love to have this on DVD. Lots of bits of it on the web. I am sure others will know much more than I but hope this helps? :-]

Fantastic advice, Duddy! exactly what I was hoping to get, but anyone else feel free to add your two cents (or Canadian Loonie). I DO have SWL !!! It makes me swoon! Only slightly disappointed that Red Rain isn't included. (remarkable how I'm able to complain about even the best). Never satisfied, always want more more more. Thanks, too, for adding comment on Play the Videos. I was thinking of getting that as well. Not sure what to get first, though. I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW (is okay to quote Queen?)

I thought swooning was out of fashion - has a very victorian kind of flavour to it. Still - when the provocation is so strong I can't blame you! Do you know the Red Rain version on the Letterman Show? Here it is in case you have not yet had that pleasure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynr8R9G2e9w Slightly rougher version but a great arrangment- like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltyRXAtRpRE Explanation of the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O9qieEpqDo Will leave you in peace now. . .

The good thing about the "Growing Up"-DVD is - it puts almost the whole "UP"-album into a brilliant visual form. We also have to mention "Red Rain" and "Mercy Street" - 2 killer-songs of the "So"-album making a comeback on the setlist. . .rock-theatre a la peter gabriel - awesome !

Speaking of the secret world live dvd, was Red Rain a part of that concert? and they decided to edit that out of the dvd?

Lanegan7, "Red Rain" is on the CD so I figured it was part of the concert. Duddy, I am not a slave to fashio and will swoon when apppropriately prompted, e.g. watching a younger PG frolick and have fun on stage. Hope that's not a problem. Watched some of the DVD last night. FANTABULOUS! and Thanks for the links!!! Hey Cimber! I think the Growing Up DVD is gonna be next. Or Family Portrait. Or Play Videos.

I did not have a chance to see Peter live in 2002 or 2003 - when I finally got a chance to see him live, it was the year 2004 - the "Growing Up"-tour was then named "Still Growing Up"-tour: It was a surprise, because songs like "White Ashes", "The Tower", "Games", "Jacinto", "Burn You Up" and "Come Talk To Me" appeared on the setlist. Therefore songs like "Mercy Street", "Williams Show", "Animal Nation" were left out.

"Growing Up" DVD is a fantastic and wonderful concert!! I LOVE it,because every concert of Gabriel is a dimond,we just watch in silence. . . . . . . There are many emotional moments,I don't know what to choose!! "Mercy Street", "Upside down", "Father,Son", teh beautiful and very original version of "In your eyes". . .oohhhhhh!!! Wonderful!!! . . . .also very nice and exiciting photos by fantastic Tony Levin in the final. . .

Oh my god!! I am very sorry!! I would like to write "Downside Up" . . . . .because sometimes when I write the title of the songs I sing in my head. . . :-] . . .the power of the Music!

I have caught parts of the concerts on TV and youtube. Honestly, I'm afraid if I own these I will spend all my time watching PG instead of living . I already have to break temptation to watch Secret World Live most days. Then again, there could be worse ways to spend my time!

Hello Elliotte, It is a risk of course! Thanks for making me laugh Nice to see you here btw.

Hi Duddy! Always like to laugh and help others to do so too! You do know that PG is like an addiction of sorts. The more of him you get, the more you want !!! Poor fellow, burdened with lunatics such as us!

You like to make others laugh? Good, cause you've done so with me more than once, Elliotte. Please don't ever turn your back on this forum! Hope PG stays burdened with lunatics like you and the others! Of course you too, Duddy!

Well, I did it. Orderd "Growing Up Live" AND "Family Portrait" . so now I wait. Will probably just give in to the urge and buy Up for my iPod while I'm at it. I could use some Who too. Uh-oh! :-]

Elliotte, you're going to have a feast for the eye and ear when that lot arrives. Did you see the short interview with PG and R Daltrey on the thread 'What Pictures.'?

ellie: the waiting is the hardest part. when it arrives, please provide a review of "family portrait" as i do not own it. i would recommend "still growing up live & unwrapped." here's a preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy638nizCNI san jacinto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6qWGru0UME white ashes

Thanks Mozo. Wow. This was my first experience with White Ashes. Wow again. I will absolutely provide a review for "Family Portrait" - waiting, waiting, waiting. How weird is this? Roger Daltrey is coming to Cleveland's House of Blues on 3 November. I may be able to go, but right now looks like I have to attend class. Does $55 sound expensive?

waiting. waiting. picked up The Who "Tommy" CD while browsing in a bookstore. waiting. waiting.

yes, i just received "walk through the fire" 12" vinyl single in the mail today from the "against all odds" soundtrack. it lists a 5 minute version of "i have the touch." i won't have time to listen to it until later this week, plus i am also waiting on other stuff. i got too much homework in addition to long hours at work.