Phaedrus25 July 2008 at 3:33pmPosts: 538 (0 today)Status: offline
by miscreants and megalomaniacs? Isn't great to hang out without some crazy harpy screeching at us? But how long can this Garden of Eden last?
If things become f-ed up again, who'd be up for setting up or joining our own forum ?
I say that there should be nothing to worry about. By Moving here, we are showing that we are a community, not a mob. That we want to get along, not to fight. That we have lots of things in common, even those we don´t. That we care for the good sense of humour. That we can get over things. That we appreciate the chance of having a space, etc.
On the other hand, it is more than obvious that we got fed and surpassed by this people´s attitudes.
At some point, I have to aknowledge I took it too personal (as it seems she did), and took awhile tor ealize how much solidarity there was behind, beside, in front. . . along.
We were ALL sick of the situation.
If Voldemort wants to come down, which I doubt after the mess we left behind :-] :-] , it would only show that she wants to persevere in the confrontation. Otherwise, we should all use this space to move on, as many have suggested.
But there´s something important that has to be said as well. The mess behind is not some sort of retaliation. It is truly a sort of catharsis to let all the pressure out.
It is true that it is a little too edgy, but it is also true that it seems that we have finally been able to make a point.
Of course she will come. But if she dares to break the harmony we are trying to rescue, then it will be more than evident whose dark glasses are. . .and whose the clear waters.
Peace and fun everybody!
Phaedrus25 July 2008 at 5:41pmPosts: 538 (0 today)Status: offline
oh man, please don't remind of of "dark glasses" and "clear waters".
Pat Parker25 July 2008 at 5:50pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
I, too, have wondered the same as Phaedrus (and thank you for your invitation to check out your link -- I promise you I will do that soon).
And, as everyone here has said, it is most likely bound to happen and it is okay if it does. May I suggest (and only "suggest", mind you; I don't want anyone to think I'm telling us what to do :-] or banish people from here :-] ), but I'd like to suggest that if/when the day comes (as it inevitably will), I think that we can continue to conduct ourselves in our usual manner and way. We can still add our posts, regardless of any that are negative and dark . . . we'll just not acknowledge them and acknowledge only the upbeat comments made (even if by that dark glass wearer) if we want to.
It's interesting because I'm sorry that we had to take this route and I had a wee bit of sadness about having to take an alternate route to join in with everyone (I never like that feeling of leaving someone out), but I do know that this is the best way and now feel very comfortable coming here (and even there), knowing that I just don't have to acknowledge any of the angry, blaming words of one.
Have a great weekend everyone and I'll see you here on the moon - if not for a short time over the weekend, at least again on Monday!
Kind regards to all,
Ste25 July 2008 at 6:11pmPosts: 2647 (0 today)Status: offline
I just come back and read you here.
Since this morning I had a genuine guilt feeling.
But I went on writing stupid things.
Well I tell to myself it was to lett the pressure dissappear, as said Pedro, and yes, I think I took what happened personnally, not because I have a big ego but because of the ammount of PMs I received from some.
When I read "not one of us" I felt as if for maybe-I would hope- the first time of my life I was the bully.
I know beeing bullied is very hard.
So yes, I can't say the contrary.
I wrote all my posts (who would?) and I mostly meant it.
But even with all the things she made. and messed the forum. well, here I feel mean.
And you know?
I don't like it.
I don't wanna be the bully.
For what it´s worth.
I have never thought of myself as a cynical man. I can be sarcastic, yes. I can be a pain in the ass, yes. But I am no cynical man at all.
And I don´t feel guilty.
Voldemort systematically provoked each and every response she has now. She earned them and now has to live with them. Sorry to say.
As far as I am concerned, I was accused (and still am) of many too many things, when the only thing I tried to do was to cool down things inviting to let go and get over.
Many of you (all of you. . . otherwise you wouldn´t have been invited to our refuge) have been accused of the same, just by trying to act likewise.
It´s even been suggested that some of us could´ve harrassed third parties when reality points that NOONE had even contacted "him" who, BTW appeared one day, filled the threads with uncomprehensive stuff and was, strangely enough, treated like a long time lunatic. Too strange for me.
I have nothing against people empathizing or sympathising with her but, with all due respect, I do not intend to lower my guard or, even worse, keep quiet facing her provocations.
I am not a Zen monk. But ain´t a bully either.
Anyway. . . This topic was colonised to stop talking about the mess behind.
Let´s act consequently, I propose.
Peace and fun
Braidy25 July 2008 at 7:18pmPosts: 237 (0 today)Status: offline
i would dislike leaving here as well and will give the future a shot, but we do already have another home that I think many have forgotten about (including me). if you want the link, PM me.
Lets hope we are not invaded. It's nice to be able to breath here.
If we are attacked then we for sure will have grounds for a legitimate complaint that will be hard for RW to ignore.
If it means an exodus to a 'secure' place if we are ignored then so be it - I'll follow the positive flow any time.
phensman25 July 2008 at 7:48pmPosts: 1841 (0 today)Status: offline
Can I just say, I was not accusing any individual of bullying. Just the general feeling that had taken hold. So please dont think I was laying blame or anything like that.
Drinks are on me now, for the whole weekend. :-]
Ste25 July 2008 at 7:52pmPosts: 2647 (0 today)Status: offline
I was walking and thinking, yes, I can do both at the same time.
This is what I came back with in mind:
I'm no bully indeed.
I'm a bit mad sometimes.
And I have that easy way(is it the word?) for being severe about myself.
And I should learn to post AFTER thinking not before.
That is meant toward me, toward my penultimate post in this very thread nobody else.
I agree with Pedro.
All I guess is I'm sorry about beeing boring sometimes with my posts , doubting of my own person, my own self.
And I do hope the good vibes will go on.
cogito ergo sum, mon cher Sté. Nothing to worry or be sorry about that.
Phens. It´s ok. I don´t think anyone thought you meant someone in particular. But I´ll have that drink anyway. :-] :-]
Pat Parker25 July 2008 at 9:24pmPosts: 2683 (0 today)Status: offline
I like what I read here . . .it is exactly how I feel about things . . . I at first felt a bit guilty over taking the side road here, but then I felt justified when I continued to be harassed by someone via PMs (which I have now taken to blocking).
I can honestly vouch for the fact that I have just returned here more frequently after a long vacation from here (and that wasn't intentional, just I had other things happening). So I was quite surprised to find that there was this sort of crazy thing going on here and I truly (and very naively, I might add) asked about it (so I could understand why this one particular person was always going on and on and on about how everyone was attacking her). She answered me (this was all done in PMs) and I still didn't understand it all, but just decided to continue posting and not get in the way of any of that.
I tried creating old threads and just as recent as this past week (beginning last Monday), I was virtually threatened in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS :-] about something - the threat came from Little Rainbow and it's on the forum for anyone to read or see. I was absolutely dumbfounded by it because I don't know half of the people here, including Little Rainbow. So I angrily bit back and have since realized that this was actually a very nice way for me to get out something that was worrying/upsetting me on a personal basis (my anxiety about having to make a decision about putting my dog down - which I haven't had to do just yet - she's still kicking :-]) On Tuesday, I realized that in one way, the statement by Little Rainbow was very cathartic for me. And because I don't know LR at all, I have just let that pass away.
But also during this week, I chose to make a statement (my own personal opinion) - not a judgment - about the postings of a lunatic here. I won't go into that crap again, but the bottom line is that since that time, I have been publicly accosted by Synnie (in the threads), and as much as I have tried to clear it up with her publicly and privately, she has absolutely refused to listen to what I have to say and actually turns it around and accuses me of saying things to her that I did not say, so that is when I decided that enough is enough. I now understand what Synnie is about for my own personal self, not on anyone's elses words/opinions - just my own feelings.
All in all, I didn't mean for this to be so long about the old stuff, but I did want to express to everyone that I don't think we're being as mean as we could be (and I don't think any of us want to be mean), but I do have a feeling that this will all pass . . . it has in the past and it will again, I'm sure.
Meanwhile, I'll have a drink and then I'm off to work for the weekend . . . no, wait, I'll have the drink after I've returned from working the weekend. :-] :-]
Enjoy the weekend, lunies!
Memé25 July 2008 at 9:34pmPosts: 2378 (0 today)Status: offline
Ste, we do share the guilty feeling, I feel bad about myself, is not that I wanted to bully, but more to make jokes, but as faces are unseen, the posts I made on the other place may end as bullies.and I feel guilty about it.
and I've never find your posts boring.
guilty. . .of wearing dark glasses.
The rest is nothing but jokes among people that has always been here (or there) for fun´s sakes, not to be pissed
Ste26 July 2008 at 3:24amPosts: 2647 (0 today)Status: offline
Yes, as Pedro says.
Don't worry Meme.
We are NOT bullies.
I thought a lot about that , and posted just above (or is it on the page 1?) and we are free from reproach. That's what I think anyway.
And Phens' , no probleme at all.
It's really allright
But the drinks are still on you, ok ?!
lore26 July 2008 at 3:42pmPosts: 1659 (0 today)Status: offline
yeah, i don't mean to be mean intentionally.
but i have made off the cuff remarks, deservingly i think and jokes and sometimes i've had a ting of regret that we don't have edit capability.
but oh well, such is life.
we do what we do, say what we say,
and if we feel need to say i'm sorry, then we do,
if we don't we don't
we are all in the same line.
it's great the instant cool breezes washing over our bare
our bared souls!
Memé26 July 2008 at 6:26pmPosts: 2378 (0 today)Status: offline
I think it will come the time when they will find us, and we'll be acused of perverting the original mean of this section.But till then, I want to enjoy this "peaceful spot" (as the one on winnie the pooh) :-]
T-DOGG29 July 2008 at 4:44pmPosts: 2359 (0 today)Status: offline
Wow, so THIS is where everybody's hiding.
Pretty silly, if you ask me.
(but then again, you didn't)
I'm not takin' sides here, but this seems a bit extreme to me.
Look at you guys, hiding in the storeroom, hoping that 'someone' doesn't find your new hiding spot.
How could you let one person kick you out of the world?
Sounds, to me, more like a bunch of quitters.
Just my opinion, don't add my name to the list of 'not one of us' yet.