Alex S14 January 2011 at 9:18amPosts: 259 (0 today)Status: offline
Do you think OVO would have been more successful and better regarded as an album in its own right (ie without the Millennium Dome connection to drag it down!), if it had been an all-Gabriel vocal album when originally released?
Back in 2000, after such a long wait for something new from PG, although musically rich, I remember finding OVO a bit disappointing due to PG generally taking a back seat where the vocals were concerned.
Having listened again to the all-PG version of Make Tomorrow Today, it really gives a hint at how amazing the rest of the (as-yet unreleased) PG vocal version must be! I love it.
Fidelity14 January 2011 at 1:15pmPosts: 313 (0 today)Status: offline
The whole OVO discussion is a complex one, of course it would have been more successful.but then again none of us are sure "he was ready" for a new album.
What i found OVO to be is a collection of cleaned up demos and a few singles.
But in all honesty i haven't dared listening to it yet as a whole, i need some preparation before i jump into a new PG album.
Incidentally i didn't get to listen to Scratch My Back until half a month ago.
(Recent PG fan)
Duddy14 January 2011 at 4:04pmPosts: 5641 (0 today)Status: offline
I felt a bit like that AlexS to begin with. I must admit however it has grown on me since then and I love the variety of syles and the guest singers. I love it and think it is very much underrated. To my mind it has a very distinctive emotional feel and does hang together. For instance I think the Jools Holland Later version of 'Downside Up' is excellent despite being PG vocals lite. Maybe you're right about the success of it and some people have perhaps not bothered to give it a try.
The 'Make Tomorrow' with PG vocals is another matter entirely though - stunning - he has said he will issue the PGOVo 'at some point'. . .add more dots. . .
Jo Jo15 January 2011 at 2:49amPosts: 70 (0 today)Status: offline
Went deep on the Lamb in the spring but now Ive got to have more didgeridoo
I have the fever for the didgeridoo
Would love to see a Good story teller live at a show
To answer your question
On the contrary
Iwant to see the visuals to the Millennium Dome Show
And the p and i
List the players and the instruments
That would be a Good post
It takes time to explore and appreciate
Ovo is Good Real Good A Master I was just too slow to find it sooner
Have you got anything for Ovo
Just thought there might be something there based on your name
Love your tour pictures
Really Good stuff
DolceVita17 January 2011 at 1:51pmPosts: 2323 (0 today)Status: offline
Yes,i think if Peter had sung the entire Album it would have had more success.
. . . because singing of Peter is too much unique,we feel the soul of Peter in OVO,and all singers are really fine,BUT Peter is Peter. . .
Peter and only Elisabeth Fraser,it would be fantastic,with all respect for others singers!
. . .by the way,i am like Duddy:i love it and i think it's bit underrated. .
Fidelity17 January 2011 at 3:57pmPosts: 313 (0 today)Status: offline
Also OVO was never remastered, therefore never considered a proper album.
Other unremastered titles include Long Walk Home and Secret World Live.
Cimber19 January 2011 at 7:13pmPosts: 2571 (0 today)Status: offline
"SUCCESS OF OVO". . .
let me recall from my memories - the release of "OvO" was 11 years ago - I think springtime, May 2000.
The PROMOTION for this album was like this: < ZERO >
I was in a record store one day and discovered the "OvO"-album "accidently" under the "new releases"-section.
My thoughts were : "WTF is this ??? - the cover of the "EVE"-CD-ROM with the "boy lying in the nest" - this time with "green" background. The CD of "OvO" was packed in, on the back sth. written like "PG featuring various artists" (all the guest-artists appearing on the album).
I mean it was clear - it must have sth. to do with Peter`s "Millenium Dome Show" just a few months back on New Year`s Eve/Day whatever. Of course I was waiting for a "physical release" of sound and music from that show, but I did NOT know ANYTHING from the release of the music titled "OVO".
After I bought the album - I also got the alternative "Millenium Dome"-version.
Let`s stay fair: in a few of the usual rock magazines, there was here and there an ad "the new album by Peter Gabriel". The album made the top 15 (position number 14 in Germany) and so on.
Fidelity19 January 2011 at 7:55pmPosts: 313 (0 today)Status: offline
I take back the harshness of my critique, i listened to Downside Up for the first time and its wonderful.
Such a brill female vocal, rest is.meh.
Sammy The Slug21 January 2011 at 4:36pmPosts: 1040 (0 today)Status: offline
"OVO" would have been better with more tracks sung by PG ("Time Of The Turning" for example). Musically, i think it's very good, but it lacks PG trademark.
"Downside UP" is certainly one of the best song he has ever writen.
Cimber22 January 2011 at 8:39amPosts: 2571 (0 today)Status: offline
my very first thoughts after getting the album were:
"Can I find PG singing on some tracks ???"
You all know the rest. . .
Both male guest singers are true artists and excellent vocalists (Richie HAvens and Paul Buchanan), but a Peter Gabriel-song must be sung by the man HIMSELF. The fans want to hear Peter Gabriel`s VOICE, his vocals, his vocal-performance. The fans like the way HE sings, the way he intonates a song. That certain style and character in his voice.
8 (eight !) years after "Us" (1992) the time was right for a new PG-release with Peter Gabriel-songs - no matter if the release was titled "UP" or "OVO" back then in 2000. Speaking for myself the 2nd half of the 90ies was HARD, as there was only here and there some new song or remix on any soundtrack or tribute album to be discovered, if you were lucky enough.
By adding Gabriel`s voice to all of the "OVO"-tracks a certain change happens in mind: you realize how great all these songs are and you notice the different colors of sound, mood and style of this album.
songs like "Time of the Turning" (what a beautiful arrangement to be heard from the very first second of the song until the last second) - these songs need to be sung by PG.
"DON`T DELETE SON OF OVO" - yes that is right.
Beside all the instrumental tracks and the opening track sung by Iarla O Lionaird, this album would be so much more joyful.
So many great songs with lyrics plus PG-vocals:
"Time Of The Turning"
We need "SON OF OVO"
Sammy The Slug22 January 2011 at 8:56amPosts: 1040 (0 today)Status: offline
Yes, we need "SON OF OVO"
Jo Jo22 January 2011 at 9:37pmPosts: 70 (0 today)Status: offline
We are an insatiable bunch
Check out PG Vox on The Man Who Loved The Earth The Hand That Sold Shadows
I have been learning alot about this production and its many tributaries for months
All while listening to it
Information is such an inspirational accompaniment
Ovo is as Good as any others
Recommend Climbers youtube link to The Nest
evoulini24 January 2011 at 2:10pmPosts: 1750 (0 today)Status: offline
Although I had bought the album 2,5 years ago, I didn't listen to it until a year ago, the whole thing, just for once. Then I listened to it again a month ago. I used to think of it as an outsider. Maybe I wasn't mature enough to understand it. But now I know that what made me not to like it as much as the others was the fact that Peter doesn't sing most of the material, because music-wise it's perfect. Well, better late than never!
Jo Jo12 February 2011 at 5:21amPosts: 70 (0 today)Status: offline
One of the best PG songs I ever heard was one in which he did not sing the material
Jo Jo12 February 2011 at 5:25amPosts: 70 (0 today)Status: offline
So one of your fav PG songs is a tune written by Robbie Robertson ? :-]
Fidelity15 February 2011 at 6:29amPosts: 313 (0 today)Status: offline
Jo Jo, you seem like a nice person and all.but you confuse me time and again.
Sammy The Slug13 March 2011 at 10:20amPosts: 1040 (0 today)Status: offline
I found an old press article on a French magazine called Keyboards from 2002. Dicky said that there was enough PG material for a new record (I/O) and that some songs were already finished (with lyrics) but not included on UP. He also said that "Son Of Ovo" should be released with PG vocals and that PG had new musical ideas for another project. How can it be possible it's been 9 years UP was released and we never heard anything new about "Son Of Ovo", not mentionning new PG songs for I/O?
DolceVita25 March 2011 at 1:41pmPosts: 2323 (0 today)Status: offline
Dear SammyT.S., maths can not be applied with Peter :-]
cebs26 March 2011 at 5:10pmPosts: 141 (0 today)Status: offline
I have always liked a few tracks on here since I heard Tower live and i went back to the album and listened to it again.
I have always liked Make Tommorrow, where did you get the pg version from?
Thanks in advance.